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Dr Michael Webberley

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DomesticatedZombie · 11/03/2022 13:39

  • haven't had a chance to keep an eye on his tribunal, but from what I'm reading:

'Dr Michael Webberley applied for voluntary erasure from the GMC register. The Tribunal say it is "unfortunate" that was not determined prior to the hearing today.

MW had two requests for postponement declined & has now provided new medical evidence for an adjournment'

twitter.com/tribunaltweets2

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 19:26

I would really have hoped so, Ova. This is quite a large player in the field of trans medecine in the UK. It should be reported.

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OvaHere · 30/03/2022 18:57

This is horrific. Do we know if any journalists are following it?

Manderleyagain · 30/03/2022 18:44

I read the whole threads today. Such a lack of care, that's what gets me. He didn't care whether the treatment was right.

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:56

The other thing I'd like to see is the testimonials Mermaids and GIRES gave for - I think it was for Helen Webberley.

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:55

Great, thanks Change.

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Changechangychange · 30/03/2022 16:54

@DomesticatedZombie

Will the GMC have documents after the tribunal? Is the tribunal recorded or transcribed?
There should be a report on the MPTS website once a judgement has been reached:

www.mpts-uk.org/

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 16:54

He’s pulling absolutely no punches.

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:52

Will the GMC have documents after the tribunal? Is the tribunal recorded or transcribed?

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Imnotavetbut · 30/03/2022 16:49

RQ: MW was a brilliant organiser, he could have recruited the right people and then gap in the service could have been filled. I imagine he'd be able to run a tight ship with right ppl I place but the original set up wasn't his.

RQ: Which is why it's called Gender Gp and not Gender Gastroenterologist

I do like RQ!

Imnotavetbut · 30/03/2022 16:46

There seems to be very little noise about this full stop at the moment. I fell down a small rabbit hole on a Twitter search for GenderGP and there's quite a few unhappy people with prescription problems etc. Also people recommending Gendercare because they're better 'at bullying GPs into signing shared care agreements'. Sorry, slight sidetrack there...

ickky · 30/03/2022 16:34

@Terfydactyl

I was just about to ask this. It is gross malpractice. Is there any criminal case following this court case

Ianal so no actual idea, but wouldnt a criminal case need victims? If all the children prescribed pbs and testosterone are happy with what they had, theres no victim.
I know they are victims but they dont know that yet and an unwilling person on the stand is worse than no person.

Shit sorry I'm tired and rambling.

I don't know either. With regard to victims, the scant evidence of PB and cross sex hormones is that they will go on to develop significant life limiting health problems. Heart attacks, osteopetrosis, medical menopause etc.
DontBuyANewMumCashmere · 30/03/2022 16:32

I can't wait to see Mermaids' and Jolyon's responses.
"We won...!"

tabbycatstripy · 30/03/2022 16:27

This expert witness is a class act. Forthright, honest, passionate. I shouldn’t be emotional but I am.

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:19

So, what are we expecting in terms of reaction from all of the people who are so supportive? Dr Michael Webberley thrown to the wolves and 'lessons learned'? Or just a general deafening silence?

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Terfydactyl · 30/03/2022 16:18

I was just about to ask this. It is gross malpractice. Is there any criminal case following this court case

Ianal so no actual idea, but wouldnt a criminal case need victims? If all the children prescribed pbs and testosterone are happy with what they had, theres no victim.
I know they are victims but they dont know that yet and an unwilling person on the stand is worse than no person.

Shit sorry I'm tired and rambling.

MrsOvertonsWindow · 30/03/2022 16:17

The more this goes on, the worse it becomes. The very adults who you would suppose have these children's interests at heart, the ones who are busying about online and in schools pushing their born in the wrong body narratives at children, are completely silent - no matter how extreme the negligence and abuse is revealed.

It's quite a revelation no it's not

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:16

'RQ: children with GD tend to revert to birth sex, adolescents seem to not revert. It's not a neutral step and I would reiterate if you have a difficult case, for goodness sake make sure it goes by the most experienced ppl on your team'

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:11

'RQ: Children with delayed puberty have got vertabrea that's narrower and that's an irreversible thing that's not gonna change. When you stop growing that's it'

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 16:10

'RQ: to stop a chds puberty is a major step, it's not a neutral action and for bone density purposes, we hope it'd recover but we'd need to see'

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DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 15:50

@BenCooperisaGod

Surely we are in criminal territory here? This isn't just malpractice, this is abuse.
It seems to me to go far beyond negligence. A doctor 'terrifies' people into treatment?
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DERFDogmaExlusionary · 30/03/2022 15:47

@BenCooperisaGod

Surely we are in criminal territory here? This isn't just malpractice, this is abuse.
Following the case and I agree
ickky · 30/03/2022 15:45

@BenCooperisaGod

Surely we are in criminal territory here? This isn't just malpractice, this is abuse.
I was just about to ask this. It is gross malpractice. Is there any criminal case following this court case?
BenCooperisaGod · 30/03/2022 15:41

Surely we are in criminal territory here? This isn't just malpractice, this is abuse.

Imnotavetbut · 30/03/2022 15:38

Panel: you don't see an adequate MDT process?
RA: the problem is the MDT membership they can talk to each other as much they want but if they can't prescribe there's no point.

Panel: I was never asked to review Dr A's curriculum ...Dr A has never trained with a recognised centre in gender to get that experience
Panel: we're not concerned with Dr A
RQ: yes but just to make the point MW couldn't have got exp from Dr A

Chair: when you say noone is qualified, do you mean they don't have exp necessary and out of area competence?
RQ: yes whereas by contrast if there had been a qualified prescriber in MDT and Dr A had been the GP then as part of shared care agreement

DomesticatedZombie · 30/03/2022 15:30

RQ: 'it says there's a specialist nurse but doesn't say what the specialism is. There's no peadiatric nurse Specialised in gender. Noone qualified to diagnose GD or prescribe hormones. Dr A, not qualified to make gender assessments or trained adequately'

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