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Sir Bernard Jenkins standing up for women on IWD - and a bunch of female MPs failing to.

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ATeamAmy · 10/03/2022 15:42

This has just popped up on my youtube feed. It is Sir Bernard Jenkin, in the commons on the International Women's Day debate, pushing back against self ID and advocating for women's need for single sex space. Anneliese Dodds has a beef with him when he refers to her performance the other day. Once again, the betrayal of women by several female MPs astonishes and depresses me. Thank you, Sir Bernard.

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ATeamAmy · 10/03/2022 17:58

@LizDoingTheCanCan

The racist expenses cheat Bernard Jenkin? Keeping it classy there guys!
What has either of these issues got to do with knowing basic biology?
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ATeamAmy · 10/03/2022 17:55

@2Rebecca

Why didn't they have the debate on Tuesday? Better late than never and I can understand some events being on the nearest weekend but people get event fatigue if it seems to drag on for days, as happens with pride that now seems to last about 3 months.
Ithink the Commons debate is always been on the nearest Thursday to the 8 March - has been for the last couple of years, anyway (2021 was the Thursday after Monday 8th, 2020 was the Thursday before Sunday 8th).
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Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 17:46

She's making her own spinelessness more apparent the longer she tries to deflect from it.

She is.

Lifeinthelastlane · 10/03/2022 17:45

What's a shame is that more "morally acceptable" politicians have had their brains removed when it comes to this issue.

TensionWheelsCooIHeels · 10/03/2022 17:44

Soooo many women ignoring the points made by Jenkins that women are not buying their adherence to gender ideology & no matter how many times they claim the usual mantras, it doesn't wash. Dodds was embarrassing. If she's going to call out what she claims is not an accurate quote, she had the opportunity to correct it & still didn't define woman. She's making her own spinelessness more apparent the longer she tries to deflect from it.

LizDoingTheCanCan · 10/03/2022 17:42

The racist expenses cheat Bernard Jenkin? Keeping it classy there guys!

WellThatsMeScrewed · 10/03/2022 17:39

World has gone mad.

Come on women MPs step up to the mark.

WellThatsMeScrewed · 10/03/2022 17:38

This is so depressing.

A middle aged white man in the Conservative party having to defend women’s rights against a female labour member.

Fuck me.

DomesticatedZombie · 10/03/2022 17:33

[quote poshme]@DomesticatedZombie it happened earlier today so it'll be on Hansard later. [/quote]
ta!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 17:15

Separate thread by @DomesticatedZombie to discuss Joanna Cherry's wonderful speech.

Joanna Cherry in parliament on IWD www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4501714-Joanna-Cherry-in-parliament-on-IWD

donquixotedelamancha · 10/03/2022 17:12

Wow, that was a great speech. It was interesting to hear a few people in the chamber agreeing with him.

It was also interesting to see alledged rapist Nigel Evans save Anneliese Dodds from having to define what a woman is. She even thanked him for stopping her talking.

I actually think Anneliese knows exactly what a woman is. The problem is that she would be crucified for saying it explicitly, that's why she hides behind the legal definition.

2Rebecca · 10/03/2022 17:00

Why didn't they have the debate on Tuesday? Better late than never and I can understand some events being on the nearest weekend but people get event fatigue if it seems to drag on for days, as happens with pride that now seems to last about 3 months.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:59

He's called Danny Kruger and is con MP for Devizes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:57

Also the guy who supplied the Dodds quote gave part of his speech to this and he was good too, immediately before Joanna.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:56

Thank you! Sorry for mis-partying Wera Grin

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:55

Can't find this debate on Hansard. Was it on Tuesday?

It's today, so probably not up yet. Still going on, possibly.

Just watched Joanna Cherry's speech and she was amazing.

poshme · 10/03/2022 16:53

@DomesticatedZombie it happened earlier today so it'll be on Hansard later.

poshme · 10/03/2022 16:53

The person who intervened to say that trans are most vulnerable was Wera Hobhouse who is Lib Dem

DryHeave · 10/03/2022 16:52

Wera Hobhouse @Ereshkigalangcleg

Lifeinthelastlane · 10/03/2022 16:47

That was great. How can AD genuinely believe she did not fail to give a definition in that interview?

5zeds · 10/03/2022 16:46

Good to see.

DomesticatedZombie · 10/03/2022 16:43

@Ereshkigalangcleg

And yes, how appalling to see other members interrupting to refer to the 'most vulnerable'

She was SNP, wasn't she? Anyone know her name?

Can't find this debate on Hansard. Was it on Tuesday?
madeittofriday · 10/03/2022 16:43

Just extraordinary these women prepared to throw women's rights under a bus.

I hate to say it but if no one is going to listen to women about this we need more sensible men like this to stand up.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:37

And yes, how appalling to see other members interrupting to refer to the 'most vulnerable'

She was SNP, wasn't she? Anyone know her name?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 10/03/2022 16:36

That was great. Thank you to Sir Bernard Jenkin and Joanna Cherry, and the MP who confirmed the Dodds quote. Is she just very unselfaware of how confused she sounded?

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