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Mother of transgender child in i newspaper today

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Bloodybridget · 10/03/2022 13:35

I read this article in the print version of the i today. I don't know anything about Marlo Mack or her child, and am quite willing to believe that she intends to do the absolute best for the kid. But her daughter was prescribed puberty blockers at the age of 12, so has been taking them for two years, and this is presented as completely unproblematic and in the same breath, so to speak, as the "high prevalence of self-harm" in trans children and young people - which according to many people on FWR threads is very much exaggerated, and when it does occur is very often linked to other issues such as ASD and eating disorders.

I'm absolutely not denying that some children have a strong sense of being in the "wrong body" from an early age, and may be very distressed at the prospect of getting the secondary sexual characteristics that come with puberty. However, I do wish there was more coverage in the media of the risks of hormone treatments for kids, and their irreversible effects. Are journalists/editors/publishers just too nervous about upsetting the TRAs?

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DomesticatedZombie · 10/03/2022 16:32

Ah, Marlo Mack.

Maker of this youtube video.

I recall it being linked to in Scottish RSHP lessons and we discussed it on Mumsnet.

One MNer - an ex Catholic - noticed that if you turn the volume up very loud you can hear someone chanting Hail Marys very faintly in the background.

she blogs as 'gendermom' and has just released a memoir about raising a transgender daughter. Available in all good bookshops now! She also has a podcast!

gendermom.wordpress.com/

Whatwouldscullydo · 10/03/2022 14:57

I would love to know what they all feel constituted bullying/ tormenting etc that these kids need protecting from.

Often ir seems to mean stating reality . Setting kids up for the idea that anyone who doesn't play along is out to get them regardless of whether or not they actually do anything. Alot of trans activists seems to he creating problems where they weren't any. Seeking out scenarios in which they know something will cause an issue and deliberately causing that issue just so they remain a victim some how.

And I would also love to know what the child can do on puberty blockers that they couldn't do befire without them? Yes your body changes but thats nature. It has to happen. But that doesn't mean you can't do all the things you were doing before. The only thing it would affect is your ability to live a life of deception. Should someone's medical care be based around a need to deceive / thick others I to playing along with something that's not actually their responsibility .

That's a shaky ground for a medical.plan.

Gangreeeeen · 10/03/2022 14:49

This is it for me:

When we arrived, I left her to glue and scribble, looking happy and unconcerned, and went into the room next door to learn how to keep her that way.

So desperate to keep her what... passive, not difficult, not a teenager? I think she wants to keep her a child forever. Puberty is difficult for everyone. Being a parent means supporting them through that change, not stopping it altogether for a quiet perfect life!

I agree with the dude from Texas. It is child abuse.

FunnyTalks · 10/03/2022 14:34

@Melroses

Is this because someone knew that there was about to be a publication from The Cass Review?

There seems to be a never ending supply of these PR pieces every time something comes up in the real world that might deflect from the message.

Yes and I welcome them.

I show them to people I know and if they still can't see the problem, I feel OK about letting the friendship slide.

Arewethebadguys · 10/03/2022 14:30

@FunnyTalks

Thanks for posting this.

It is just stereotypes.

Purple dresses, long blonde hair, butterflies.

Conservative stereotypes and parents who are too scared, homophobic or thick to understand that, although it may be hard, your child doesn't have to conform to the stereotypes associated with their sex.

If the FOUR YEAR OLD child has the sense of being in the 'wrong body" it is due to the fact childhood is horrifically gendered at the moment. Pink princesses and blue footballers etc. Actually it's not even due to that, it is due to their parents discomfort with the fact they didn't neatly fit into the right coloured box.

No child OF FOUR has genuine disgust of their own genitalia (the one thing that makes a 4 year old girl different to a 4 year old boy) unless their parents have instilled it in them or they've experienced sexual abuse.

The way the article talks about saving lives is disgusting. Children die in war zones, in famines, and of cancer for fucks sake.

Wow! Well said!
Melroses · 10/03/2022 14:26

Is this because someone knew that there was about to be a publication from The Cass Review?

There seems to be a never ending supply of these PR pieces every time something comes up in the real world that might deflect from the message.

FunnyTalks · 10/03/2022 14:05

Thanks for posting this.

It is just stereotypes.

Purple dresses, long blonde hair, butterflies.

Conservative stereotypes and parents who are too scared, homophobic or thick to understand that, although it may be hard, your child doesn't have to conform to the stereotypes associated with their sex.

If the FOUR YEAR OLD child has the sense of being in the 'wrong body" it is due to the fact childhood is horrifically gendered at the moment. Pink princesses and blue footballers etc. Actually it's not even due to that, it is due to their parents discomfort with the fact they didn't neatly fit into the right coloured box.

No child OF FOUR has genuine disgust of their own genitalia (the one thing that makes a 4 year old girl different to a 4 year old boy) unless their parents have instilled it in them or they've experienced sexual abuse.

The way the article talks about saving lives is disgusting. Children die in war zones, in famines, and of cancer for fucks sake.

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