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WEP membership support single sex spaces

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Imnobody4 · 09/03/2022 17:28

We are celebrating #IWD2022 by publishing our overview of @WEP_UK's member assembly on self-ID

WEP MEMBERSHIP OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORT SINGLE-SEX SPACES

WE thank all the women who gave their time & expertise

@ManduReid @K_IngalaSmith @janeclarejones

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The report is here
www.wepsbr.com/post/wep-members-support-single-sex-spaces

It also highlights the machinations of WEP officers.

This is a resounding win for women and our sex-based rights. These findings are particulary significant when understood in context. This was not a member-wide consultation, but a process of discussion with WEP selected members with a balance of views:

At the start of the process 40% were pro self-ID, 40% were anti self-ID and 20% were undecided.

This shows there was a significant shift from a pro-self ID position to an anti self-ID position when it comes to single sex spaces and single-sex exceptions as outlined in the Equality Act 2010. In fact, half of those described as 'undecided' or 'pro self-ID' shifted their position to an anti self-ID position after listening to the expert evidence.

This is BIG news, and shows that our Party is not in deadlock, we are not polarised and there is a way forward. So why has the Women's Equality Party not platformed these results and spoken up for women? Why, when our VAWG policy advocates for single sex exceptions, and our membership support single-sex exceptions is our Party unable to advocate for our sex-based rights?

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DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 09/03/2022 19:21

Oh this is interesting news indeed. I left WEP precisely because there had been no consultation with members about single sex spaces. Like Rebecca I couldn't get my head around it.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 09/03/2022 19:12

So was this set-up a direct result of WEP’s policies? Small parties can often easily be manipulated by small numbers of manipulators/infiltrators, but this process has an interesting premise. Also, very telling that when ordinary women actually listen to the arguments properly, only a few are resistant to changing their thoughts on this. A limited number have absolutely closed minds, but I think they’re relatively rare. Even professional politicians who have to stick to the party line are becoming increasingly uncomfortable as they waffle their incoherent policies.

2Rebecca · 09/03/2022 19:00

I don't understand the mentality of the people who set up the WEP. If you believe women need their own party then surely you believe that is because of the problems women face due to being women ie sex based differences. Them ignoring that and it being a party for people with a feminine gender identity just seemed nuts. There are a lot of men I have more in common with from a political point of view than many women. If I was going to join a political party for women that presumably spanned the political divisions it would be because they were focussing on issues females face. I find it all very odd. This could have been their decade with women abandoning other parties

DomesticatedZombie · 09/03/2022 18:41

@McDuffy

Imagine it would've been a much higher % if loads of us hadn't left!
That's a good point. Be interesting to see membership stats.
aliasundercover · 09/03/2022 18:19

It seems as though the leadership did everything in its powers to first prevent having a consultation, then tried to skew it so the consultation would only give the result it wanted, then when that failed tried to cover it up

... and still, after all that, 71% clearly support single sex spaces.

If the WEP doesn't change its position after this I can see no point in it continuing. Who would support a party that goes directly against the wishes of 2/3 of its members?

Soontobe60 · 09/03/2022 17:54

Shock horror - women supporting women!

McDuffy · 09/03/2022 17:53

Imagine it would've been a much higher % if loads of us hadn't left!

foodfiend · 09/03/2022 17:38

Wow. Fascinating results. And so frustrating that WEP haven't publicised them or used them to justify taking a position.

The process sounds super-interesting - clearly supporting the idea that when people do engage fully with the issues and understand what's being proposed, they're much more likely to oppose self ID.

DomesticatedZombie · 09/03/2022 17:35

@teawamutu

It's almost as if women who join a Women's Equality Party are quite keen on actual women's rights.

I'm shooken, I tell ye.

It is indeed, surprising.
teawamutu · 09/03/2022 17:34

It's almost as if women who join a Women's Equality Party are quite keen on actual women's rights.

I'm shooken, I tell ye.

DomesticatedZombie · 09/03/2022 17:31

Well, crikey.

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