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Greta Thunberg IWD tweet "people oppressed because of gender"

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HelenaRavenclaw · 08/03/2022 18:31

Shame on Greta Thunberg! Literally removing women from International Women's Day! How about "WOMEN are still being oppressed...for their SEX"?

Greta Thunberg IWD tweet "people oppressed because of gender"
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Dazedandconfused28 · 08/03/2022 19:07

@LondonWolf

She needs to shut up now. She's been allowed to cause more than enough trouble.
Yes, let's shut women up for IWD!

She's 18, and English is her 2nd language FGS.

AnneLovesGilbert · 08/03/2022 19:07

Most if not all languages have words for men and women. Not sure why people are fixating on whether or not she’s confusing gender and sex. Women are oppressed, women, not people.

And thankfully there are many women to be celebrated who are fighting for the rights of women and girls, so i disagree with her message on that basis too.

SamphiretheStickerist · 08/03/2022 19:05

@Nightlystroll

Aw. She's just a kid who's feted wherever she goes. And doesn't go where she won't be feted. She has no idea what about real life or what daily oppression is like. She'll learn.
I hope she does.

I also hope she has someone close who is looking out for her emotionally, financially and for her future. because she will need it.

Once the glow wears off, she grows up a little, loses the 'cute quotient' and becomes another campaigning adult, she will need something more than a stern voice and her name to get her heard. Or a job.

This sort of shit really won't help her into adulthood, earning a living etc. It will just cement feelings, opinions about her.

www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/russia-ukraine-energy-europe-sanctions-b2023180.html

DadJoke · 08/03/2022 19:04

It has two generally accepted and related meanings, one of which is the sex of an individual, male or female, based on reproductive anatomy, but she supports LGBT rights, and is probably including trans women in that.

Fairislefandango · 08/03/2022 19:04

A lot of people use the words sex and gender interchangeably, because that was a pretty normal and uncontroversial thing to do a few years back. Maybe Greta Thunberg is deliberately using 'gender' in the current sense, but Engiish isn't her first language- I'd be inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt unless I had good reason to think she really was trying to erase women.

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SunniDelite · 08/03/2022 18:56

I agree that some countries say gender when they mean sex, but it wouldn't surprise me if Greta was a supporter of the blue-hairs..... it seems a lot of young people are. Sometimes I feel like I should just let them have what they want and sort it out for themselves when it goes pear-shaped (I'm old!)...

Delphinium20 · 08/03/2022 18:48

As English isn't her first language, she may well be using gender as it is used (particularly in the American press) as interchangeable with sex. I don't know. If gender is used as a synonym for sex, then I agree with her tweet.

Also, she's young and a woman and I won't gang up on her.

StillWeRise · 08/03/2022 18:45

Give the girl a break
She may not understand the huge difference that transactivism has forced us to emphasise sex vs gender. It's gender after all (the system of gender) that causes the female sex to be oppressed.

I can see the point that IWD can end up being a bit pink cup cakey.

TeaNCupcakes · 08/03/2022 18:44

She's not as bright as she's made out to be

Onionpatch · 08/03/2022 18:44

I agree with Ramayquaza

Posters on MN are very clued up on sex v gender meaning, but my years of working in consumer research means I know most of the uk sees them as interchangeable and gender as more polite. Greta's language might not even have two terms.

SparklingLime · 08/03/2022 18:43

@LondonWolf

She needs to shut up now. She's been allowed to cause more than enough trouble.
What a lovely comment about a young woman on IWD! Full of solidarity.
Nightlystroll · 08/03/2022 18:43

Aw. She's just a kid who's feted wherever she goes. And doesn't go where she won't be feted. She has no idea what about real life or what daily oppression is like. She'll learn.

LondonWolf · 08/03/2022 18:40

She needs to shut up now. She's been allowed to cause more than enough trouble.

Ramayquaza · 08/03/2022 18:39

Swedish may not have different words for sex and gender. My native language doesn't. Also, many speakers of English as a second language may think 'gender' is the more polite option because of American influence on online spaces.

Language is really important and sex is not gender, but please let's not gang up on a teenager who is relentlessly targeted online already.

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/03/2022 18:39

English isn't her first language. She has not Literally removed women from International Women's Day because she used the word gender instead of sex.

Duchessfloofy · 08/03/2022 18:33

She's young and they are getting it brainwashed into them these days . I agree OP , it is alot of nonsense, gender. Sex . Women are oppressed because of their sex. She will learn.

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