Greta Thunberg IWD tweet "people oppressed because of gender"

I think if I was going to speak to an international audience in a foreign language, I'd make sure I was using the right terminology. It's not that difficult to Google and she'll have a lot of native English speaking friends to check with.

Many English speakers consider them completely interchangeable. Here in Canada it is rare to find anyone who realizes there is a distinction and the US is the same. Even among people campaigning to maintain women's rights to single-sex provisions.

Also, technically, I think orgs such as the UN use gender to describe the way female gender stereotypes oppress and hold back women around the world depending on the "gender roles" of their culture.

When you read their wording in those contexts, it's absolutely about women as in those settings, men never have that gender role.

Greta Thunberg is an amazing role model for our young girls and women. Feminism is for all women, so is IWD, not just the ones you agree with @LondonWolf.

But it is gender oppression - not necessarily sex, particularly before periods. As a fellow ND person I get this. Forced genderification was a blight at school and gender apartied with that.
I don't want to ever have my DSs feel they HAVE to have female friends but that they can without ridicule. I got SO much shit for mostly having male friends - or at least it mostly being boys that tolerated me.

Also, I think that Greta Thunberg is very well aware of her limits unlike some out there.

FUCK GENDER OPPRESSION!

Why would anyone want to shut her up?
The more discussion, the better.

Sorry slightly off the op but I had a look through twitter hashtag international women's day, what is with all the anime and cartoon characters being celebrated? Is it a joke?

Comments like "she needs to shut up now" are why some women are too scared to speak up for what they believe. I'm new to this corner of mumsnet but had hoped it was tolerant of people voicing their opinions.

Unfortunately Mumsnet gets its fair share of trolls and wind up merchants, often with the aim of making the site look bad, Just report and ignore.

And I don't "hate" her - stop that hyperbolic twitter-esqe attempts to shame me. It's not "hatred" to be utterly weary of having to accept policy that is completely arse about face and driven by screaming teenagers telling all the adults how shit they are - see also queer theory, CRT, gender ideology blah blah blah.

What a nasty comment.

Boo hoo. She has and I couldn't care less what day it is. Multiple countries have based their energy provision of her shouting and whining about climate issues. A school age child with no science background or qualifications shouting down actual scientists and climate experts and everyone listens and says how wonderful she is?! Absolute joke. Look where we are now, refusing to consider actual practical energy sources because they don't look pretty enough and now dependent on the likes of Putin and yes I know the U.K. only gets approx 10% of our energy from him but we like globalisation on here don't we so I am talking about Europe as a whole.

And hey, guess what? On IWD, I get to say what I want to as well, being an actual woman myself. Don't bother trying to shame me, I couldn't give two toots!

Comments like "she needs to shut up now" are why some women are too scared to speak up for what they believe. I'm new to this corner of mumsnet but had hoped it was tolerant of people voicing their opinions.

Jesus. The amount of hatred on here for anyone who has the temerity to hold a different view is staggering. This young women is fully entitled to hold, and express, the opinion she did.

I suspect the use of gender rather than sex is deliberate because of the much more awkward substitution of people for women. The use of puberty blockers and cross sex hormones has been stopped for minors at the Karolinska in Sweden. I'm sure Greta Thunberg is well aware of the significance of what she says.

The use of gender might be a language thing as others have said. I've noticed many Americans (I know she isn't American) use gender as a euphemism for sex even those who are opposed to gender ideology and queer theory stuff.

I think there's less excuse for using 'people' on IWD. Just use 'women' even if your own personal interpretation of women includes males.

'People' is just vague and actually tells us nothing about who is oppressed, why they are oppressed and who is doing the oppressing.

These are the sorts of threads that are screenshot by TRA because of how absolutely batshit they are.

Yup @Dyrne.

The point is, that for a lot of the world, she is using the correct terminology... gender and sex are interchangeable, and mean the same thing.

It's totally unnecessary to instigate a pile-on towards her on the FWR discussion section on IWD, for what is a completely reasonable and sensible comment about women and discrimination.

This doesn't read like a comment on the trans debate to me, just a statement about IWD being more needed to protest discrimination towards women rather than celebrate how great they are... which incidentally uses gender interchangeably with sex.

These are the sorts of threads that are screenshot by TRA because of how absolutely batshit they are.

There are plenty of tweets to pick out that aren’t done by people with English as a second language, maybe focus on those, eh?

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Sex, Gender

Actually reading some of the replies on here illustrates the lack of solidarity between women & the misogyny even within a supposedly feminist community . It's grim. This teenage woman has received rape threats, been described as mentally retarded, had threats made against her family etc etc. A young woman told to 'shut up' because she uses the word gender instead of sex in her 2nd language. Get a grip.

I agree with her comment in it's entirety apart from the use of the word gender to mean sex. However as she is not a native English speaker and speaking to an international audience, I don't think it's a problem or a deliberate attempt to include male bodied people in IWD. I also think that she gets the most horrific online trash thrown at her, left right and centre and I have no desire to add to that.

How sad to see (presumably) grown adults on here trying to pull down and shut up a young woman from speaking, on IWD of all days.

Transwomen may discriminated against for many reasons but it isn't because of sex.

The two groups have nothing in common.