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Man gives birth

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Lookingforatimeslip · 08/03/2022 09:34

Another “man” gives birth. Having seen a poster on Mumsnet talking about a book that used very ambiguous language around the sexes, it’s concerning that Ryan didn’t realise Ryan could get pregnant. What’s also very sad is when Ryan says “ Since coming out as Ryan, I've felt this freedom that I never felt as a girl, I do things for me instead of what society deems certain genders should do.”

Sorry about the Mirror link: www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-gives-birth-after-not-26406151

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bishophaha · 08/03/2022 10:27

Sorry but this reporting by the Mirror made me chuckle:

"The drama student, from Rochdale, Manchester, was stunned by the positive test - but decided to immediately pause his hormone treatments in order to give birth to son, Hendrick, two."

He gave birth to a TWO-YEAR-OLD?!

Otherwise, I think it's helpful that the article focuses on his body dysmorphia - because that's what it is, really. I think it's unhelpful to bring some nebulous, indefinably concept of 'gender' into something where it's not liking your body (for whatever reason) that is causing the unhappiness.

Plasmodesmata · 08/03/2022 10:26

There was a thread in AIBU the other day about a science book for children that said something along the lines of "babies are made when the sperm from one adult meets the egg from another adult".
Confusion is only going to get worse as nobody is clear which sort of people can get pregnant.

OvaHere · 08/03/2022 10:10

Good luck to Ryan not having their freedom affected by having a baby. I'm sure it will be very different to us women who give birth.

GCAcademic · 08/03/2022 09:52

Going by what some people on here are reporting that their children are being taught in school, we are soon going to be seeing a lot more "men" who didn't realise that they could get pregnant.

Clymene · 08/03/2022 09:52

Despite being younger and I'd guess less educated than Freddy McConnell, I note that Ryan is well aware that a double mastectomy means no more breastfeeding, unlike Freddy.

I wonder what impact the testosterone during the first trimester will have had on the foetus?

Babdoc · 08/03/2022 09:50

The comments as always are totally gender critical. Nobody is buying this biology denial.

TyrannysaurusXXrightshoarder · 08/03/2022 09:44

Ryan comes across as a lovely, reasonable sort. I wish him every happiness in his future. He also, going by the quotes, seems an intelligent young person. So I’m utterly confused as to why he thought he couldn’t get pregnant? Because of the testosterone? Because he’d always ‘known he was a man’? Something else? Whichever it is it’s indicative of an alarming and huge deficit of information, education and counselling that people are being given before going the process of transitioning.

Artichokeleaves · 08/03/2022 09:40

How do we stop girls growing up this confused and oppressed by gender stereotypes? Ryan wants the freedom to do and be anything Ryan wants to regardless of their biological reality - which is great - but feels they only have permission to do that if they change words around first.

bishophaha · 08/03/2022 09:40

"what society deems certain genders should do.”

If he always had a "man" gender I don't see why anything changed then? Society said he could do man things and only when changing his body (not gender, as the body has nothing to do with gender) he felt he could do them?

Could barely read the linked article because of the ads taking up the screen.

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