Man gives birth

I don't see GC people claiming puberty blockers cause infertility (but TRAs claim that people are saying that).
Testosterone (after certain amount of doses) can cause infertility, and other irreversible effects.

TRAs claim Russia is behind worldwide anti-trans legislation and they also claim that it's GC people making false arguments. Real misdirection by TRAs again.

I suppose MN is part of the chorus telling transmen they will be sterile, though you'd think most people would guess it would take longer than a few days on testosterone for total sterility to take hold.

I can't help hoping that Ryan finds being a parent and working with his Mum on that helps heal his relationship with his own body.

Surely when you address someone you address them as 'you'.

You only use third person pronouns when referring to someone in conversation with someone else.

Mind you, a person who evidently doesn't understand human reproduction may not know the difference between the verbs 'address' and 'refer to'.

Even during pregnancy which, y'know is a time when most of us accept for a short time we're a walking incubator, it's all about Ryan and Ryan's feelz. Biology aside it seems a sense of male entitlement was perhaps always there.

So even when Ryan was getting sex-ed at school at no point the penny dropped that PIV sex could lead to pregnancy? Regardless of identification?

That's fucked up.

As an aside, I'm having difficulty articulating my thoughts on a man who has vaginal sex. If you identify as a man why would you do that? It's not a man-thing at all...

“ My GP was worried about possible complications but my pregnancy ran smoothly.Thankfully I had a wonderful team of midwives who would address me with the appropriate pronouns and if they made a mistake would apologise”

I can’t bring myself to comment on this statement.

Sex ed seems to have had a brief sunny window where I think we were getting to the point that young people understood how you got pregnant and why and what stopped you from unwanted pregnancies. No more 'do it standing up on a full moon' etc.

Now, if they're taught that its possible to change sex, that sex is a spectrum and that sex has no bearing on reproductive ability then I do worry we are going backwards in terms of knowledge and understanding.

Can never read a headline like that without thinking of Brenda Fricker in So I Married an Axe Murderer:

May Mackenzie: Charlie, hand me the paper.
Charlie Mackenzie: Mom, I find it interesting that you call The Weekly World News "the paper." A paper contains facts.
May Mackenzie: This newspaper contains facts. Look at this. "Pregnant man gives birth." That's a fact

This story is in the Metro too. I think that paper has a real transgender agenda, even though it is owned by the Daily Mail.

A man gave birth? Did it look like the pictures here?

twitter.com/nineteen8ofour/status/1488107314632605697?s=21

Christ I don’t even know where to start. There are some very confused and damaged people around.

More correctly, "A man who says he's a woman gives birth".

Interestingly Ryan’s first thoughts on finding Ryan was pregnant, wasn’t concern about the damage testosterone can do to a developing foetus, but ‘oh no! How will I cope without testosterone for the remainder of the pregnancy?

Thought he came across as a bit thick, didn't think he could get pregnant on testosterone but then reveals got pregnant before taking it. Hasn't ruled out having more children but had double mastectomy which he's sad about as won't be able to breastfeed. Did no one speak to him before all this medication and surgery?

Seems to be a heterosexual woman who just didn't want to conform to their idea of gender, but hey, at least the nurses got their pronouns correct, mostly.

The article is worrying. The fact they didn't know they could get pregnant, the fact there are now books which are ambiguous about which sex can get pregnant. Bloody hell. I fear for future generations, I really do.

I really don't have the energy to take this seriously today, other than yes, isn't it interesting how often it's boring old Mum who steps up when she's needed? And how lucky that she'd read some books

Really? You have a vagina, which is connected to your uterus. You chose to put a penis inside your vagina and are shocked that you're pregnant?! Jeez. Whatever you look like on the outside, or choose to think you are emotionally, doesn't change biology.

As usual a transman is in the news for a story relating to their biological sex and reproductive function. Unlike the stories about all the stunning and brave transwomen that make the press, where it's about their personal achievements. Plus ça change.

Note how the male partner fucked off and refuses to parent and mum has to step in and support raising the grandchild; which is fine because she’s “read all the books.”

Mum should have said, sorry I’m gender fluid and feeling like a man today so I’m not going to do any of the support work expected of women. But, of course, Ryan can reject gender roles all they want but mum knows that without her taking on the traditional caretaking role baby wouldn’t be supported so she steps in.

These sort of stories have been headlines in the newspaper for a few years now. When one of these claims first appeared, I read out to my OH that a man had had a baby! As I read on, it transpired that it was a normal pregnancy in someone of the sex that bears young. Bored OH went back to what they were doing with a sort of 'so, a man didn't have a baby then'.