PREDATORS PRETENDING TO BE SOMETHING THEY ARE NOT, PART 1 Please share with Shona Robison

Can you highlight the. It in my post where I talk about changing the GRA, Cath as I don’t remember writing about it.

Of course if you’re confusing me with another poster I graciously accept your apology.

This thread seems to be implying transwomen who attack women and children are not real transwomen.

Have you read the draft of the GRA reform bill?
No
There is a very big difference, imo at least, between a man saying he is a transwoman and a man saying he's a woman though and demanding to be treated like a woman.

Ted Bundy used to pretend to have a broken arm and get women to help him carry stuff to his car. He’d then attack them, abduct them and rape and murder them.

So yes, predators are highly manipulative and will do whatever it takes to get nearer to their victims.

I suspect there’s a level of enjoyment in the deception that people like Bundy enjoy.

Sorry, had a bit of an auto correct fail there.

I haven’t read it Catherine. Works you mind summarising the parts which differentiate between trans women and men pretending to be trans women, please?

And in the context of self-ID do you really think none of these men will pretend to be transwomen in order to gain easier access to victims?

What does that even mean 'pretend to be transwoman '?
Surely whoever says they are a transwoman is a transwoman regardless of what motivates them?
If we decide people are pretending to be trans, well, how do you decide who's real and who isn't?

I obviously need to post this again

www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-psychiatrist/article/gender-reassignment-5-years-of-referrals-in-oxfordshire/6B5F217162ABD9B3189F2EB82787034E

Gender reassignment: 5 years of referrals in Oxfordshire

There were 39 males in this study.

The majority of individuals (80%, n = 45) were referred to a specialist centre for gender reassignment (Fig. 2), although only two (4%) have had funding for surgery approved at the time of the study. Three of the sample had or were planning to have surgery abroad, on the basis that services there were more easily accessible and less expensive than in the UK. Reasons for non-referral to a specialist centre included being deemed not ready for transitioning (either determined by the individual or because the person was not currently living in the desired gender role), being homosexual but not having gender identity disorder, having an autism-spectrum disorder with a significant degree of impairment such that the real-life experience criterion was not met, and seeking gender reassignment to facilitate or normalise paedophilia. This latter small group described gender reassignment as a means by which to increase their intimate contact with children, which they viewed to be more socially acceptable in a female role.

To emphasise a number of males were refused gender reassignment therapy because they were ”seeking gender reassignment to facilitate or normalise paedophilia.”

”This latter small group described gender reassignment as a means by which to increase their intimate contact with children, which they viewed to be more socially acceptable in a female role.”

We have been unable to identify any previous literature describing individuals seeking gender reassignment as a means of normalising their paedophilia, but this is clearly a concerning finding.

So there you go. Evidence that this DOES happen.

Where the hell are these males now?

I don't think anyone is saying predators pretend to be women specifically, just that predators will pretend to be anything if it gets them closer to their prey.

So when I was a child and my parents told me to refuse any man offering me sweets, it wasn't because they were just nice men giving out sweeties to small children? Who have thought it?

Clearly the whole point of safeguarding goes way over your head CatherinaJTV which is no surprise.

Oh and yes we will do us and women won’t Wheest about our rights in Scotland

That doesn't mean that there aren't violent offenders who are or claim to be trans women.

So I assume that you agree that a self-ID law, where any of these violent offenders could become legally female, is a bad idea.

She said there is no evidence that “predatory and abusive men have ever had to pretend to be anything else to carry out abusive and predatory behaviour”.

What is wrong about that? Men have not needed to pretend they were anything but men to get access to their victims. They'll find their victims in their families, their sports clubs, their work without ever falsely pretending they are women.

That doesn't mean that there aren't violent offenders who are or claim to be trans women. And to instigate a pile on by misinterpreting what she said is, well, so you.