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Green Party - conference - votes starting soon

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DomesticatedZombie · 04/03/2022 18:11

in 5 minutes!

A reminder!

Feminists, please attend - and please vote the motion to 'purge' women who've signed the women's rights declaration Out of Order.

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Livelifeinthebuslane · 06/03/2022 18:22

But this does leave me wondering lots of things - what happens to the D motions we were waiting for that weren't further discussed?

We have to spend the next 150 years preparing to debate queerphobia.

God knows what the people who joined to protect the environment think.

2Rebecca · 06/03/2022 17:43

It sounds bizarre. If they have too many motions to deal with they should know by lunch time Sun that some won't be progressed and be able to tell delegates they won't be being debated and so they fall and the real status quo happens, not pretend status quo which means a motion gets emergency motion status. Otherwise they are stricter about time keeping and allow enough time for any motions likely to be contentious ie any motions on gender ideology and what women can and can't say or do and who gets to go in female spaces.
I saw one delegate moaning that "women's sex based rights" is a transphobic dog whistle.
It does seem that TRAs interpret women standing up for themselves in any way and with any language is called a transphobic dog whistle now, and calling something a transphobic dog whistle means it should be a banned phrase women can't say any more without being denounced as evil transphobic bigots.
Woman= adult human female, women's sex based rights, believing in biology, you can't actually change sex, legal fiction.
All these phrases which used to be normal English are now banned as "transphobic dog whistles"
The most illiberal supposedly liberal movement ever that seeks to take away and restrict our vocabulary.

DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 17:34

Thanks for explaining that, Rights, I was too busy today to follow.

If I attend another conference I think I'll need to do some reading up.

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StillWeRise · 06/03/2022 17:33

so did the queerphobia and disaffliation motions not get discussed at all? are they gone for ever now?

Rightsraptor · 06/03/2022 17:30

The emergency motion was basically about a GP councillor and a case of alleged sexual assault/impropriety and the GP response/lack of response to it. But the motion seemed to have required the suspension of standing orders to progress it.

It was argued (explained?) that the criteria for the suspension of standing orders hadn't been met - this was a financial aspect - so the motion was actually out of order.

The emergency motion wasn't carried.

But this does leave me wondering lots of things - what happens to the D motions we were waiting for that weren't further discussed? Do the previous results stand as party policy and, if so, why were they put forward again for the vote-that-never-happened? Also, with the emergency motion above, why didn't the proposer know that they need to get budget approval else it'd fail? Ah! so many questions. Which are largely irrelevant to me as I'll be leaving the GP before my next subscription is due.

DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 17:12

Phew, well done everyone if you managed to follow along with that! Now have a glass of wine/cup of tea/valium as required.

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ColourMagic · 06/03/2022 16:50

Plenary - will debate an emergency motion now.

DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 16:47

I think a motion added very late on, Colour, but don't quote me

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ColourMagic · 06/03/2022 16:35

In the plenary reference was made to an emergency motion - what's that?

Rightsraptor · 06/03/2022 15:59

They just said they will be back with D04 after a break. What's D04 now? ...

ColourMagic · 06/03/2022 15:50

Plenary may get to (1 or more?) D motions today.

AlsoNotAGirl · 06/03/2022 14:02

Shahrar

AlsoNotAGirl · 06/03/2022 14:02

@WarriorN

Ive just seen EB is suing the GP.

There's a garden to dig in.

Don’t forget Shahra Ali’s patch in the same place
DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 13:56

I am told that we are unikely to get D motions voted on for today. But hard to say.

I can't even pretend to understand how all this works tbh!

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Signalbox · 06/03/2022 13:37

@Rightsraptor

Now I am totally confused. I have D07 D08 D09 D14 listed as being important for me to vote on but they just said before the break that we'll be going on to E motions and emergency motions (or does E stand for 'emergency'?)

All at sea now.

Yes I don’t understand this either. Presumably it’s a time management thing.
Signalbox · 06/03/2022 13:36

Oh good. The more the merrier!

WarriorN · 06/03/2022 13:27

It's rocketing

WarriorN · 06/03/2022 13:26

Ive just seen EB is suing the GP.

There's a garden to dig in.

Rightsraptor · 06/03/2022 13:02

Now I am totally confused. I have
D07
D08
D09
D14
listed as being important for me to vote on but they just said before the break that we'll be going on to E motions and emergency motions (or does E stand for 'emergency'?)

All at sea now.

Signalbox · 06/03/2022 10:43

Is that what they call it?

DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 10:33

You're in time for Attunement, Signal. Grin

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Signalbox · 06/03/2022 10:31

Just realised I'm too early. Silly me!

DomesticatedZombie · 06/03/2022 10:29

not started yet Signal, I think

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Signalbox · 06/03/2022 10:22

Can't get into the session. Is it full up?

Rightsraptor · 06/03/2022 09:59

Thanks Zombie, that's very helpful. Wish it didn't look such a lovely day out there, too nice to sit glued to a screen.