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Kemi Badenoch nails it

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teawamutu · 04/03/2022 08:28

From Glinner's update - this is brilliant:
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/no-means-no?r=ahiyi&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Whatwouldscullydo · 04/03/2022 09:31

It still surprises me although it shouldn't that however polite, well spoken, articulate etc a person is that when faced with the simple request to define the terms so that everybody can be on the same page to allow the discussion that's apparently so needed , that they just can't do it.

Toseland · 04/03/2022 09:24

Cheering for Kemi, that was outstanding! Do we know where this was or what was said before and after?

Rodedooda · 04/03/2022 09:21

How are you defining trans?

This is a keeper.

nauticant · 04/03/2022 09:20

It's because Nokes thought she'd be drawing Kemi Badenoch into a fog of obfuscation and this would make her look like a bigot. It didn't occur to Nokes that Badenoch might ask that Nokes clarify her question. Nokes has become used to a debate in which clarity is characterised as bigotry and forgot she was not in such a "safe space".

Igmum · 04/03/2022 09:17

Spot on Kemi. Nice, clear, unambiguous answer. And there's something seriously wrong with anyone who wouldn't be uncomfortable with this.

OperationDessertStorm · 04/03/2022 09:14

Why would Nokes bring that up? Drawing to the attention of parents that your underage unattended teen is now sleeping in a mixed sex space and if you say anything you will be smeared - not a great look Caza

loislovesstewie · 04/03/2022 09:13

I love the fact that some people live in a world where nobody, but nobody, does anything for mischief or devilment. I live in the world where some people (mostly men) would do just that.

bishophaha · 04/03/2022 08:59

So Nokes believes that trans girls are biologically male? At least she's on board with that, although I suspect she would give a non-answer if asked directly "are trans girls male?"

delurkasaurus · 04/03/2022 08:56

Badenoch skewered her. "Define 'trans'" was the key moment in that exchange where it went wrong for Nokes.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/03/2022 08:54

See the crappy MN web chat performance as well. She doesn't actually understand the issues.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 04/03/2022 08:53

Nokes is embarrassingly stupid and awful.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 04/03/2022 08:42

Nokes is a massive fool. I hadn’t realised quite how venal and glib she also is until her Select Committee performances; and putting Wordle scores on Twitter screams ‘smug’.

Zerogravity · 04/03/2022 08:36

Nokes is just awful on this topic. She really doesn't want to be pinned down on anything and refuses to ever really define anything. (Also - off topic - it really pisses me off that with all the serious and worrying stuff that is going on at the moment, her Twitter feed is 90% Wordle scores - Caroline, we don't care!)