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Kemi Badenoch nails it

213 replies

teawamutu · 04/03/2022 08:28

From Glinner's update - this is brilliant:
grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/no-means-no?r=ahiyi&s=r&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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littlbrowndog · 05/03/2022 21:33

Kami burnt nokes

We burnt nokes when she was here

Nokes wasn’t talked over.

I saw it

Nokes traitor to women and girls. Simple as that

DomesticatedZombie · 05/03/2022 21:33

Nokes was emphasising her authority and position.

That much was evident.

JustSpeculation · 05/03/2022 21:25

While Nokes certainly comes across as not being the brightest button in the box, I believe that talking over the chairman is considered as disrespectful to the committee as a whole, and procedurally unacceptable. Nokes was emphasising her authority and position. It's the committee's turf, not Badenoch's. Her attitude to Badenoch, on the other hand, was mere common or garden rudeness.

If I am wrong, I am happy to be corrected.

sacredfeminina · 05/03/2022 21:00

Kemi was so dignified. I have utter respect for her. I could not have held my cool if I was being spoken to so rudely.

DinosaurOnlySpaces · 05/03/2022 20:05

CN seems to think her role is to needle evasive politicians in the manner of John Humphrys. Amazingly rude, biased, no interest in discovering anything or furthering the debate - pure point scoring as PP said. Nice to see some pushback.

DomesticatedZombie · 05/03/2022 18:18

@Porfre

Interrupts Kemi, while Kemi is speaking. And when Kemi tries to carry on speaking Nokes: "Don't speak over me!"
That really was quite astonishing.
Goatsaregreat · 05/03/2022 18:11

Fascinating how she outed herself as so rude and self important with a spectacular lack of respect for a woman with differing opinions. She was evidently uncomfortable with Kemi's senior role and knowledge of the subject. Methinks she's due some proper equality training rather than all the genderwoowoo conferences she's been attending.

endofthelinefinally · 05/03/2022 18:02

She thinks everyone else is too dim to realise.

sacredfeminina · 05/03/2022 18:01

Noakes is a liar. She says ' i am frantically trying to remember what ...... said about trans pupils in single sex dorms'' but she doesnt appear frantic at all... And then when Kemi says she has not heard the comment, Noakes is miraculously instantly able to remember it.

So she could remember easily, and she was not frantically trying. So that was a completely loaded question which she was trying to make casual. Horrendous woman.

endofthelinefinally · 05/03/2022 17:51

Nokes is astonishingly rude, with a vastly overinflated notion of her own importance and intellectual capability.

Zerogravity · 05/03/2022 17:39

Agree with all the comments on here. Ironic that Nokes talks about taking the heat out of the debate and yet she's the one who is being all aggressive and asking leading questions! Very unimpressive.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 05/03/2022 17:37

Nokes is a nasty piece of work.

Porfre · 05/03/2022 17:03

Interrupts Kemi, while Kemi is speaking.
And when Kemi tries to carry on speaking
Nokes: "Don't speak over me!"

Porfre · 05/03/2022 16:36

Nokes sounds so condescending in that exchange.
And by asking the question whether the other MP felt uneasy she sounded very smug as though she was going to unearth the other MP as a bigot.

DomesticatedZombie · 05/03/2022 15:52

members.parliament.uk/member/4597/contact

StellaAndCrow · 05/03/2022 14:30

@Slothtoes

I’ll send Kemi Badenoch an email to thank her.
Do you have the email address handy? Apols I can't search at the mo.
StellaAndCrow · 05/03/2022 14:28

Wow, Caroline nokes comes across as not very emotionally intelligent doesn't she! Thanks for the link to the rest of the interview.

When Kemi talked about when her father died recently he was still worrying about the attacks on her, I briefly thought Caroline was going to be helpful/sympathetic when she started "I'd like to reassure the minister that . . ." she was maybe going to say - you have our support/we understand etc but no she continued:
". . . she's not the only one getting abuse".
I'm sure that made her feel much better.

So combative. And Kemi was so good in pointing out issues about how questions are asked as traps.

EricCartmansMagicalUnderpants · 05/03/2022 12:15

@ValancyRedfern

The contrast between Nokes's sneering tone and Badenoch's calm professional one was so marked. My resolution is to #bemorekemi
Definitely. Kemi is utterly fabulous.
Goatsaregreat · 05/03/2022 11:37

Thank you for that Slothtoes. It's time that politicians understand that no matter how awful a government is, so many women are not going to vote for male led parties that sneeringly gaslight women with their not talking about cervixes, rapists in cells with women nonsense. And we note that this government continues to fund groups promoting unprecedented levels of social contagion in children as we're currently seeing via the captured DfE.

ValancyRedfern · 05/03/2022 11:20

The contrast between Nokes's sneering tone and Badenoch's calm professional one was so marked. My resolution is to #bemorekemi

ATeamAmy · 05/03/2022 11:16

Great idea, Slothtoes. My own MP has been hopeless, so I'll also copy him in. KB's contact details:

members.parliament.uk/member/4597/contact

teawamutu · 05/03/2022 09:59

@Slothtoes

I’ll send Kemi Badenoch an email to thank her.
Cc'ing my own MP. Good idea.
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Slothtoes · 05/03/2022 09:33

I’ll send Kemi Badenoch an email to thank her.

Slothtoes · 05/03/2022 09:31

Thank you Kemi. Sunlight is much needed.

Datun · 05/03/2022 09:15

And the women who enthusiastically agreed with them.

Imagine what Kemi would say to someone who claimed you cant say only women have a cervix, or that a parliament of 50/50 transwomen and men is fair.

I'd actually pay to see it.