Always advert - 61% of young people have felt ashamed for having a period

Everyone not obsessed with trans women got the message

I don't have a clue what you think this issue has to do with trans women- you are the first person to mention them.

@DisgustedofManchester so what, just fuck maths and fuck statistical accuracy then? Who cares, get with the programme, right? Except the UK already has a massive problem with numeracy and this kind of shot doesn't help, does it?

Yay, you're back, Disgusted!

Imagine seeing you here on a thread about periods! Is it something you feel strongly about, women's periods?

Everyone not obsessed with trans women got the message so I am guessing hardly any young women were confused by the language used.

Seriously, no one outside of this thread ( and I think even some on here think its apreposterous suggestion ) that the inclusive stats were distracting the target audience from the message.

Ads are supposed to be accurate. These have false statistics and we all should complain.

Great so girls dealing with one of the most sex specific experiences of their lives have to have their identities erased to ‘be kind’. How can we expect girls to grow up with any kind of confidence when they aren’t allowed their own identity or language.

There’s also a massive disconnect between discussing period shame and making scented products (which are bad for women).

Let’s all write and let them know!

Maybe these (obviously female) people feel like this because their schools, colleges and universities have made toilets mixed sex and pretend like girls don't exist anymore.

Always products are shit anyhow. Overly scented and make you sweaty and itchy. Only to be used in a dire emergency.

I wonder how much of this is ideological - as in they want to buy into gender ideology - and how much is just that if they use words like women or girls or even females, they know they will be hit with a load of aggressive complaints? As far as that goes they are really between a rock and a hard place, or they may think they are. Though I suspect that if they stood up for their decision it would be dropped quickly.

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Thanks for link to complaints.

which is obscure because a lot of people in general won't know that endemetriosis is a female only condition

And you're not allowed to tell them!

It’s obvious in this case. But if you hear a smaller statistic, say ‘10% of people have reported delayed periods after medication x’, how do you know whether that’s 10% or 20% of all female patients? That’s a huge difference.

Exactly. Like "x% of "people" have endometriosis" which is obscure because a lot of people in general won't know that endemetriosis is a female only condition. 20% of people could be 20% of women or 40%.

Interesting point re the scent.

No one I know wants that awful smell - it infects everything in your bag like nappy sacks do. And yet, they persist in making them like that despite the feedback.

Why is hypothetical feedback from a teeny, weeny minority given such weight?

I don't know that looks contradictory. Because they are acknowledging female biology. Except they're not in acknowledging that it fucking belongs to females.

You can't wring your hands over young girls being ashamed of their bodies, when you're calling them menstruators and cervix havers, ffs.

Their brains fell out!

Good thing I stopped buying them when they took the female symbol off the packs.

That is the big issue and it’s obscured by the incorrect language.

It’s obvious in this case. But if you hear a smaller statistic, say ‘10% of people have reported delayed periods after medication x’, how do you know whether that’s 10% or 20% of all female patients? That’s a huge difference.

Why wouldn't they be ashamed of their periods when companies flogging sanitary products are also too embarrassed by female biology to even acknowledge it?

But it could still be 61% - because if it's 61% of respondents, and all respondents were females aged 13-17 then that is 61%.

But we don't know because the terms are v unclear

Is the bigger issue not that 61% of young (I assume - menstruating) people have been ashamed of having a period? Given that this could be driving the need for the term people in the first place as shame of bodies and being female has driven girls to identify as boys? It's disheartening that what you took from the statistic is messing about with language.

Saying 30% of people doesn't have quite the same impact does it?

I wish they'd leave maths alone.

We get it on here, all the time. Being accused of homophobia, for instance, when the ideology says homosexuality doesn't exist. Or how can you be a cervix haver? If you don't know who's got one.

No one is reading that bloody advert and trying to work out exactly how many men and boys have periods.

How many people would that ad have had to go through before it was finished. How many people were told by the inclusion officer, or LGBT department that they had to say people? And how many of them thought, hang on, statistically that's fucking nonsense.