YogabirthUK cancel event after Freddy McConnell flounce

Re: nipples, it also seems like another way that capacity for sexual pleasure is taken away. I mean, I suppose by 28 you should have a fair idea of which erogenous zones do it for you, but the teens signing up to this are much less likely to have explored this (rightly so). And sexual awakening can unfold over decades, it's not as if you lose your virginity and immediately know your lifelong preferences.

[quote AgathaMystery]@vivariumvivariumsvivaria I'm so disgusted with health care. That baby could have died, or been poorly from all the complications of prematurity - because a series of midwives and obstetricians are not brave or bright enough to say "no".

I don’t disagree with your comment overall but honestly the days of midwives & obstetricians doing pre-conceptual counselling are kind of over.

The only time I see pregnant trans men is when they are well & truly pregnant. It’s too late by then.[/quote]
Yes, that's fair. However, there are more people involved than midwives and obstetricians.

Who is giving the trans men advice about managing their cross sex hormones in order to restore menstruation? Is this something a gender clinic does? Or is the community advising itself - which seems to be the case locally as the majority of trans men here are supplementing their prescription by buying testosterone on the "grey market".

If FM was 28 when transitioned surgically, presumably was on hormones before that, but let's go with what we know. That is twenty years earlier than when a normal menopause should happen. So, if we addd those twenty years to the uterus as a "side effect" of testosterone then FM has a uterus of more than 48.

IUGR, failed induction, emergency c/section, tiny baby? Quelle surprise.

There is a need for research. I'm not saying that these people should have babies, I'm saying, if the FDA lists testosterone is a class X teratogen and even low dose testosterone HRT stays in the body for 2-3 weeks...then maybe it's wise to consider that people who are on long term testosterone need advice prior to conceiving.

I'm worried that there is a lack of information required for informed consent which is impacting the whole population of trans men and NB female people who take testosterone. And that it's not going to be them who lives with the consequences of that.

If you look on Instagram FM does seem to have nipples - is it a case of they put them back on but they aren’t connected to anything as the breasts have been removed? Unless they are just tattooed on.

I also note that Freddy McConnell was not only 28 in 2014 and therefore might reasonably have been expected to have acquired the usual basic information about the human body, but had also completed secondary education, studied at university, graduated with a degree and embarked on additional studies in the US.

But hey, the cos-normative people never explained about nipples so 🤷‍♀️

Men have nipples. So you don’t look male, you look like Action Man. Are they charged extra?

Yes. Covered here. Grim reading if you've not seen this before. lilymaynard.com/wielding-the-sidhbh-gallagher/

I think I read that a mastectomy is easier (so quicker and cheaper?) to perform if the patient doesn't retain the nipples. Some transmen have nipples tattooed on, I believe.

why have your nipples removed?

Apparently in 2014* Freddy McConnell wasn’t aware of 'feeding options' for babies because nobody had ever explained them. The purpose and importance of nipples had not been made clear to FM and FM had essentially been 'denied the knowledge' needed. Damn those evil cos-normative people!

• In 2014 Freddy McConnell was 28 years old.

I find it extremely worrying that there is no research and I can well believe that the people qualified to do the research are either steering clear because it would be career suicide or have been actively deterred by colleagues or ethical panels worried about reputational damage if they are attacked for even posing the question that it might be harmful to a female body to deliberately increase testosterone way to something more like a male level.

However, it's one thing for a patient to say 'I want to do this to myself, regardless of the long-term consequences for my health'.

It's quite another for a patient to say 'I want to do this to myself, and as I plan to get pregnant soon I also want to do this to my baby'.

We would expect HCPs to tell a woman who was a smoker or a heavy drinker or regular user of recreational drugs AND was planning to conceive that she was not just doing her own health no good but might also harm the baby if she did conceive.

Do staff in fertility and gender clinics spell this out to transmen who want to become pregnant? If they don't, how is this ethical?

growth problems happen for many reasons, true - but they are common, in fact, routine, in older mothers.

The crowdfunded is still open? Really? hoiks up judgy pants

Slightly off topic but I bought Milli Hill's book on periods for my autistic daughter. Fantastic book.

I can't believe we are at the point where even thinking about biology is transphobic. All of us came from a woman, some of us came from girls but none of us are ever birthed by a male.

To be fair to Freddy, I’m pretty sure he came off the testosterone supplements before starting fertility treatment. So the problem with the placenta in this pregnancy was probably nothing to do with that. One of my friends had the same issue in her second pregnancy and was induced early. I don’t think it’s rare.

Regarding Freddy’s mum’s crowdfunder, I admit that I’m surprised to see it still open and taking the occasional donation. It still reads: “If Freddy is unable to travel to Sweden for any reason, all money raised will be refunded.”

I think you’re all being a bit unfair, Freddie has also posted about the difficulties in visiting their family’s holiday home in Spain. Where is your compassion?

I find Freddie utterly repellent and have enormous pity for the HCPs who attended the two births as Freddie will have been monitoring them for the slightest slip up so Freddie could later screech about the dreadful transphobia Freddie experiences when some poor exhausted overworked midwife said ‘she’.

I feel even more sorry for Freddie’s children being raised by this deluded, selfish, narcissistic individual. Gaslit into believing Freddie is their father when in fact Freddie is their mother and no amount of tantrumming and court appeals can change that. At least they will have each other as adults when reflecting on and dealing with the fallout of their absolute car crash of a childhood.

I presume FM supports children taking puberty blockers and hormones if they don't adhere to stereotypes, so I'm surprised they were so precious about the milk their baby received.

[quote AgathaMystery]@vivariumvivariumsvivaria I'm so disgusted with health care. That baby could have died, or been poorly from all the complications of prematurity - because a series of midwives and obstetricians are not brave or bright enough to say "no".

I don’t disagree with your comment overall but honestly the days of midwives & obstetricians doing pre-conceptual counselling are kind of over.

The only time I see pregnant trans men is when they are well & truly pregnant. It’s too late by then.[/quote]
And to be honest, I doubt Freddy would have listened to advice. Lets' remember that Freddy considers it the fault of their gender consultant for not explaining to 28 year old Freddy that a double mastectomy would mean breastfeeding was not an option.

Taking responsibility for decisions is not a strength.

He says in his Instagram story that YBUK should change the line up to be more trans inclusionary.

How much more inclusionary can you get than having a trans person on the panel?

But then he dropped out.

It doesn't make any sense.

Imagine hating women so much that you attack them talking about the basic biological function that brought you into the world.