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YogabirthUK cancel event after Freddy McConnell flounce

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WinterTrees · 28/02/2022 14:40

Saw this on twitter this morning but can't see a thread here.

Milli Hill was supposed to be appearing at an event run by YogabirthUK entitled 'Gender and Birth: A space to listen.' Milli was lined up to appear alongside Freddy McConnell and another speaker, but Freddy pulled out after the event was announced, on the grounds that Freddy could not appear 'alongside/after/in the same remote vicinity' as a birth specialist who recognises biological sex.

Full tantrum available here. twitter.com/millihill/status/1498060037536714752

The YogabirthUK Instagram link is worth looking at too. Lots of support for Milli Hill and regret about the cancellation of an event that was literally supposed to be providing 'space to listen', but the TRA input is interesting and very telling. (Spoiler alert: TRA claims MH is a disgusting transphobe for being exclusionary to transwomen when - crucially - Freddy is a transman. And excluded Freddyself.)

I am having one of those days when my patience with all this feels very thin. Very thin indeed.

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Rococococo · 03/03/2022 11:31

Yes, forced 😢

YogabirthUK cancel event after Freddy McConnell flounce
vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/03/2022 11:26

"forced" to go to Sweden? Wow.

I'm generally sympathetic and compassionate but, I'm really struggling to keep that up for this person.

Part of being a parent is realising that it's not all about you, isn't it?

Clymene · 03/03/2022 11:11

@Rococococo

Ah ok, am guessing it’s because there was a link in it.

Yes, I was quite surprised to see that Freddy also has another fundraiser on the go. This one’s to make a film about how he’s been forced to go to Sweden to give birth 😬

Surely FM can use all the money raised to go to Sweden in the first place?
Clymene · 03/03/2022 11:10

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

I've just realised that FM's got siblings.

Grandma doesn't mention them on her bio. Or anywhere.

Ouch.

Yes, must be pretty hard on them. They don't get a look in. All these munchy mums are solely dedicated to their trans children.
Rococococo · 03/03/2022 11:05

Ah ok, am guessing it’s because there was a link in it.

Yes, I was quite surprised to see that Freddy also has another fundraiser on the go. This one’s to make a film about how he’s been forced to go to Sweden to give birth 😬

Rococococo · 03/03/2022 11:02

Um, why has my previous post been “hidden until MNHQ can have a look at it” BEFORE IT’S EVEN BEEN POSTED FOR ANYONE ELSE TO SEE???

Rococococo · 03/03/2022 11:00

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/03/2022 11:00

I've just realised that FM's got siblings.

Grandma doesn't mention them on her bio. Or anywhere.

Ouch.

FrancescaContini · 03/03/2022 10:34

@NitroNine

Do you think there’s ANY way FM genuinely didn’t understand that “having a baby” is clearly not, in any way, what the S2 route is for?

Or is “seeking clarity” just code for “having a massive tantrum & making unreasonable demands of the NHS with the expectation they will do as I want as soon as I Say The Magic Word”. The NEW magic word, obviously: why would you ask & say “please” when you can instead make demands & use accusations of transphobia to get what you want, after all?

I don’t think “I don’t agree with the wording on the birth certificate given to a baby born in the UK” would be an adequate reason for the NHS to fund the medical costs of giving birth in another country. I’m pretty sure the NHS has far more pressing issues to deal with.
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WinterTrees · 02/03/2022 22:59

If we're all about 'my truth' now, court cases are going to get quite confusing.

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NitroNine · 02/03/2022 22:59

Do you think there’s ANY way FM genuinely didn’t understand that “having a baby” is clearly not, in any way, what the S2 route is for?

Or is “seeking clarity” just code for “having a massive tantrum & making unreasonable demands of the NHS with the expectation they will do as I want as soon as I Say The Magic Word”. The NEW magic word, obviously: why would you ask & say “please” when you can instead make demands & use accusations of transphobia to get what you want, after all?

RVN123 · 02/03/2022 22:37

If birth certificates can reflect everyone's personal truth, can I knock 20 years off my age please?
If not...WHY not?

DobbyTheHouseElk · 02/03/2022 22:22

As far as I understand it, for a child to have a passport, they need permission from their Mother, not their Father. That must have annoyed Freddie as well.

Rococococo · 02/03/2022 22:18

This is so weird. Freddy’s children apparently need birth certificates that “reflect their truth”.

Surely birth certificates are intended to be a public record of THE truth? Hmm

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Pizzapls · 02/03/2022 22:10

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OperationDessertStorm · 02/03/2022 21:52

@DobbyTheHouseElk

So that child has no record of birth. How does that work for accessing healthcare? Poor kid.
And what precedent does that set for other groups who want to conceal a child. We keep reading about ‘ghost children’ who have fallen off the radar (out of school, healthcare etc) during the pandemic.
DobbyTheHouseElk · 02/03/2022 21:14

So that child has no record of birth. How does that work for accessing healthcare? Poor kid.

RVN123 · 02/03/2022 20:44

What Freddy and their ilk fail to realise or acknowledge is that a birth certificate is a true record of the child's birth and is FOR THE CHILD.
It's not a validation exercise for the parent.

It usually states who mothered and fathered the child in a biological sense.
It was the same with the trans couple I mentioned up thread. Footage showed them discussing how upset their parents were that they were refusing to reveal the sex of the baby.
God knows why.
It's almost as if the baby is an extension to their fantasy role play.

Can you imagine? "Oh I'm a Grandmother now!"...
"Great! Is it a boy or a girl?".......
."F**k knows".........

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/03/2022 20:15

Ordinary people who don't register a birth face criminal proceedings, don't they?

DobbyTheHouseElk · 02/03/2022 20:13

It’s a huge vanity project imo.

Did I read correctly that the eldest child still hasn’t got a birth certificate so the birth isn’t registered? How does that work with schooling/health care?

RVN123 · 02/03/2022 20:07

If the NHS fund this, when there is perfectly good maternity care in this country, then they are off their heads.

Entitled, arrogant, self obsessed.
Poor poor children.

DobbyTheHouseElk · 02/03/2022 20:06

So what are they doing with the money raised so far??

Rococococo · 02/03/2022 19:57

Yup.

YogabirthUK cancel event after Freddy McConnell flounce
Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 02/03/2022 19:36

@Rococococo

Freddy’s fundraiser is still active. I can’t believe they were going to try to get the NHS to pay Freddy’s medical bills in Sweden 🤢
You what! The NHS which is on its knees at the moment as we slowly emerge from a pandemic, the NHS which needs every penny it has for essential services?

You think you've heard everything, and then ...

ChateauMargaux · 02/03/2022 19:33

As in .. All speakers were invited to participate openly & transparently..