YogabirthUK cancel event after Freddy McConnell flounce

Sorry @DobbyTheHouseElk, I phrased that very VERY badly - certainly, as Freddie explains here he came off it while trying to conceive (though you CAN conceive while taking it) - but just stopping it while TTC [& pregnant] doesn’t actually make the body bounce right back.

What I was failing to communicate with any clarity (sorry) is how much it troubles me that there are some drugs they will go to great lengths to avoid giving [girls &] women due to purely hypothetical future children; but no such caution seems to be being applied to CSH & trans men (as completely separate issue from puberty blockers in child population).

As side note, article is quite interesting in terms of FM knowing better than everyone else but also refusing to accept any kind of responsibility for their own actions: it’s not Freddy’s fault he failed to follow instructions & drink enough water to have a full bladder for their appointment at the end of the day. No, the resultant discomfort was the fault of the nurse* doing the scan. Freddy was totally set to blame them should he not get pregnant, too.

It would be fascinating to find out whether the other parents who think Freddy is so “cool” really do view him as “a single dad” as he claims, or if they’re just being kind because FM still reads to them as female

*a nurse rather than the allied HCP you’d expect, according to Freddy…

The problem is that a lot of transmen are buying "top up" testosterone online. They are seeing their GP and then buying privately or just illegally. So, who knows?

It's the long term effects of having a reproductive tract that's affected by the cross sex hormones that we need to know about.

We don't know it means. No one knows. But, we do know that older women's uteruses are not as efficient at growing and supporting a placenta as a younger woman.

So, there's that.

Oh bloody hell, the baby arrived 7 weeks ago

Surely he wasn’t on testosterone when he was pregnant?

That sentence makes no sense in my head.

Someone donated £1000 to the GFM (which is still active as I write this post) 24 days ago. Someone else “1 month” ago.

FM’s mother set up the GFM & included an undertaking to refund contributions should Freddy, for any reason be unable to travel to Sweden - there was no mention of a second/alternative project. So, err…?

Shutting down the GFM obviously isn’t going to be your first thought when your grandchild needs to turn up early; but it’s long LONG overdue now. Doing so should also have been planned for - including account details being shared with a trusted 3rd party (I’m assuming here Freddy knows them) so that it could be shut down & funds returned as promised as soon as it was apparent Freddy wasn’t going to Sweden; or, had the worst happened (& - I cannot stress this enough - thank God it didn’t!) they could have explained & repurposed the page for funeral expenses (with offer of refunds to donors), which you’d obviously not expect FM’s mother to feel up to doing right then.

There’s no way FM wasn’t told that taking testosterone puts the developing foetus at risk - is FM claiming that to be a complete shock as with the “you need breasts to breastfeed?!” information? Or is FM just ignoring that bit, because FM deliberately & determinedly doing something that causes their child harm rather goes against the narrative that this is magical wonderful & to be lauded. Women who simply happen to be of an age where they might have children have their treatment regimes determined by not causing harm to hypothetical foetuses even if they’re very clear about never having children. Ugh.

I never got the thing about the Swedish birth certificate. They don't have one as such - just a "Population registration certificate Extract from the Population Register"

"Sweden does not issue international birth certificates as other countries do. The document corresponding to the birth certificate is the population registration certificate Extract from the Population Register. "

www.skatteverket.se/servicelankar/otherlanguages/inenglish/individualsandemployees/livinginsweden/newparents.4.7be5268414bea064694c754.html

Reading about it, it does not seem too dissimilar to the UK register of births, except you get a number and it is a tax register. All family relationships are also listed and father is listed similarly to UK in that it is only automatic if the parents are married. Otherwise there is a further process. If you want a UK passport, you will need to supply a copy of the whole registration along with familial relationships.

Among others, one of the reasons I didn’t have children is because I always considered myself too selfish to put the needs of a child before my own, which to me is an important part of being a good parent.

And then I read about situations like this and realise I would have been like fricking Demeter in comparison

Some very selfish people have kids, they really do. Children need stability and ‘boring home life’ (as a teacher I know said - no high drama, just consistent, stable and predictable). these children will ‘accept’ their life - of course they will. How many single mums tick along fine until the kids get to school and then get antsy about not having dad, why haven’t they got dad, why doesn’t dad live with them, can they have a sibling, why can’t they have a sibling, how come they’re friend goes on holiday and has a house and a dad… etc etc etc

See, this is a problem that FM cannot manage.

Children say what they see. I don't expect that anyone in FM's circle does that. The older kid is still pre-school, once FM is at the school gate then all manner of transphobia will be unleashed by hateful, bigoted 5 year olds.

Yes, FM could home school, but even then, the kid needs to socialise. home school children are not isolated from other children.

FM's too young to have read Flowers in the Attic, right? It's a totally bat shit, unpleasant book - but, less batshit than forced birth abroad during a pandemic.

I'm at a loss to think why anybody would support this crowdfunder. FM and mother appear to post a great deal on social media so anybody who supports FM's cause presumably knows all the stuff mentioned on this thread. Do they just not care about truth and accuracy? Have they lost all capacity for critical thinking, or never had it to start with?

I think there is the truth and then FM’s truth.

Strikes me that FM is a very damaged individual with a lot of insecurities and angst.

If he has a passport, he has a birth certificate.

I wonder if they have any interaction from SS. Or do they all give a wide berth not wanting to be labelled as transphobic?

You can’t keep the sex of a child secret from everyone forever. Certainly not when the child goes to nursery/school. Unless you homeschool.

I don’t understand why the crowdfunder was needed. FM’s mum openly writes about “our finca” in Spain, and rents out a “stylish Georgian apartment that sleeps seven” for £107 per night.

But they expect other people to fund their trip to Sweden to give birth, complete with bilingual doula?

Not if you are a very special person to whom normal rules do not apply.

I genuinely don’t understand the logic of this. How would children of a transgender parent would be put at risk of discrimination or harassment if their parent’s original sex is recorded on their birth certificate?

The examples given here on Freddy’s fundraiser are things like applying for a passport, taking exams, drawing a pension etc. How would the admin person processing those forms have any idea that the applicant’s parent was transgender?? How would the subject even come up?

An infant without a birth certificate would be a massive safeguarding issue, wouldn't it?

For goodness’ sake; when will Freddie realize that human men don't give birth? I really do struggle with this nonsense.

What does FM mean by that FM "continues to have no legal recognition"?

Does it mean "as the child's father"? Because, I think the court case was clear, FM is the parent, but not the type of parent that FM is trying to be recognised. That, is, erm, legal recognition, right?

You get fined don’t you?

Pretty sure that the first born has a birth certificate. It might just not be one that FM recognises as his true birth certificate.

And, that's a point, I thought it is a crime to not register your child?

I bet they do have one.

That’s because the wording on the birth certificate isn’t to the liking of the child’s mother 🤦‍♀️