SNP Rebels (Yes, really) and More

www.holyrood.com/editors-column/view,editors-column-the-right-to-be

Comment from Mandy Rhodes in Holyrood magazine. Hope the link works ...

The SNPs culture, from what I can see, fosters unquestioning allegiance to party policy. I believe it's not allowed to question or criticise party policy, in fact?

Correct. All part of the separatist propaganda- just the same as peddling the lie that if you don't support separatism you don't care about Scotland.

As it happens gender reform bothers me far less than the truly deranged policy of separatism. It's quite amusing actually seeing posters on here who supported separatism in the past now hand wringing about how deranged and totalitarian the SNP is.

although most nationalists in the parliament back the legislation and want it passed quickly

The Nat MSPs and MPs do what they're told. The separatists who voted them in don't care as long as they keep peddling"freedom".

Thanks for sharing op.

This from Alex Massie irked me:

'It is possible to accept that trans women are a sort of woman — in identity terms anyway — without accepting they are women exactly the same as any other women.'

No, Alex, I'm afraid it isn't. Lots of us used to pretend it was the case but this pretence is one of the reasons we've ended up in this dreadful mess.
So, no, Alex. No man can ever be any kind of woman. It's a hard no. A firm line. No thank you.

Herald article, largely a retelling of the ST article, but with comments open.

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19955525.nicola-sturgeon-facing-revolt-gender-bill-rebels-seek-free-vote/

Thank you Iggy.

A glimmer. But I'm afraid 10 MPs is just not enough.

most nationalists in the parliament back the legislation and want it passed quickly

The SNPs culture, from what I can see, fosters unquestioning allegiance to party policy. I believe it's not allowed to question or criticise party policy, in fact?

www.heraldscotland.com/news/13207900.snp-clampdown-mps-fail-toe-party-line/

Who are those 13% I wonder???? And why???

Thank you for sharing the links. What a backwards women-hating little country we have become. The SNP have achieved nothing in all their years of power other than increasing division and blaming Westminster for all their failures. Glad there are some within the SNP willing to stand up to the toxic SNP/Green leadership. And as for the Lib Dems - why do they campaign so hard to make it easier for male people to gain access to where women and children are vulnerable?

Comments are turned off lots in the Times for articles concerning women's rights especially in the past few weeks. It is irritating but the Times do give a lot of coverage for the GC position and for that I am grateful and will continue to pay my subscription

Comments may be turned on later. They're quite often turned off overnight.

Thank you for the share tokens.

Lurking behind much of this, I think, is a question many women (in particular) worry about: is being a woman simply a question of preference or performance? If anyone can become a woman simply by affirming their newfound femaleness, what is left of womanhood? That is not a question I imagine many of our MSPs would like to be asked and one very few would be capable of answering. Loved this

The fact that comments have been turned off is neither here not there, this is a newspaper, not twitter. There are three articles in the Sunday Times today and all are clearly GC, THREE articles! That's truly amazing. Two years ago there would have been one per month, at best.

Just saw these! 13 per cent support for intact males in female spaces, and they're still ploughing ahead