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littlebilliie · 26/02/2022 23:20

I think there is so much to worry about with Ukraine, I wasn't expecting this statement from MI6 about freedoms.... I think a whole society is at risk yet there is more pontificate and point scoring which suggest a 'wall influence.

Completely tone deaf

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highame · 27/02/2022 09:46

I would have thought the job of MI6 and all public services is to fulfil their obligations to the people of the UK and having a diversity strategy is not the first thing they should be publicising, it is 'how are you spending our cash and how are you protecting us'

Diversity is also about women, disabled people, religious people and so on, it is not just about rainbow flags yet rainbow flags get more press than anything else. Any wonder we're all angry

FannyCann · 27/02/2022 09:42

Haha. Robin trots over to scold the women on Mumsnet. Twitter too hot for you Robin? What with that ratio and everything?

terryleather · 27/02/2022 09:40

@RobinMoiraWhite

Maybe *shock / horror* it’s because MI6 really value what a diverse workforce brings to the important work they do.
Even in the face of all out war, let's make sure we do the important stuff - centre men with identities.
KittenKong · 27/02/2022 09:36

Diverse means everyone not just the people of the rainbow. It’s called going your job.

oldwomanwhoruns · 27/02/2022 09:36

There's another thread going right now, on the meaning of 'diversity'.

And the consensus is that 'diversity' now means 'I hate women'.

Just explaining this for you, Robin.

RobinMoiraWhite · 27/02/2022 09:27

Maybe shock / horror it’s because MI6 really value what a diverse workforce brings to the important work they do.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/02/2022 09:24

@Lovelyricepudding

I have often wondered if Russia was supporting/backing the LBGTQ+ behemoth in order to undermine western societies. When, in the face of an aggressive military invasion right on our doorstep, the head of MI6 posts tweets like this it suggests Putin was successful.
Oh for goodness sakes. This sort of comment is pretty crass. The rights of LGB and probably various other letters of the alphabet have quite clearly been seriously eroded/destroyed in Russia under Putin and doubtless would be in Ukraine if the Russians take it over.

The tweet may have been foolish but 'liberal values' are a large part of what sets us apart from the likes of Russia.

Terfydactyl · 27/02/2022 09:10

@meditrina

Also, nothing on the official website to show there are any official social media accounts

(And I noticed that they so use term MI6 after all, but the main name is SIS and surely that's what they'd use on any real SM?)

The account has a blue tick, that means its confirmed its him.
highame · 27/02/2022 09:08

Do think, with all eyes on Ukraine, we must be extra vigilant re TRA's trying to get stuff under the radar. They have form

Theluggage15 · 27/02/2022 09:08

I thinks it would actually worry a lot of people in this country, that at such a time as this, when you’d imagine MI6 is extremely busy keeping the country safe, the head is finding time to virtue signal. It’s not very reassuring and is completely tone deaf. I’m appalled by it.

meditrina · 27/02/2022 09:05

I managed to not spot the blue tick, which is rather silly of me.

Whitefire · 27/02/2022 09:03

Is Richard Moore chief of security? Yes

Does the account have a blue tick? Yes

I'm going for it being him. Also the idea that it is a fake account is far more terrifying because if they can't control that what hope do we have as a nation.

littlbrowndog · 27/02/2022 08:50

It’s him.

And he did tweet that

Idiot

meditrina · 27/02/2022 08:41

Also, nothing on the official website to show there are any official social media accounts

(And I noticed that they so use term MI6 after all, but the main name is SIS and surely that's what they'd use on any real SM?)

meditrina · 27/02/2022 08:37

@ChazsBrilliantAttitude

Hawkins001

You are spectacularly missing the point. The reaction on Twitter is almost universal condemnation and ridicule. Whatever the intention of the tweet, it’s actual impact has been to embarrass our intelligence services. Given that it is reasonable to expect the Head of MI6/SIS to understand the importance of communications in influencing public mood, it is spectacularly ill judged.

Or that he's been hacked.

Or that it's a fake account

I'd go with the latter - because MI6 doesn't call itself MI6, its SIS

JulesJules · 27/02/2022 08:31

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RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 27/02/2022 08:25

@Hawkins001

Not sure how to exactly comment on these two commentd, but at least it's in parts, more constructive analysis.
That doesn’t surprise me at all
Iwishihadariver · 27/02/2022 08:20

@Iwishihadariver

But it says a lot though and it's quite poetic in it's way

Damn! Quote fail... that was for JulesJules (and the other poster)

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 27/02/2022 08:18

Hawkins001

You are spectacularly missing the point. The reaction on Twitter is almost universal condemnation and ridicule. Whatever the intention of the tweet, it’s actual impact has been to embarrass our intelligence services. Given that it is reasonable to expect the Head of MI6/SIS to understand the importance of communications in influencing public mood, it is spectacularly ill judged.

Terfydactyl · 27/02/2022 08:06

@Hawkins001

Not sure how to exactly comment on these two commentd, but at least it's in parts, more constructive analysis.
Whut? Wtf do you care what we write? Is it only good enough if we have a degree in warfare or something?
Iwishihadariver · 27/02/2022 07:30

But it says a lot though and it's quite poetic in it's way

aweegc · 27/02/2022 07:27

I think these kind of statements actually put our service men - possibly more than service women, because the sexual threat to them is more obvious - and spies in an altered kind of danger if captured. I realise the armed forces are not overtly engaged right now, however, his tweets will be read by his peers across the world. And remembered. And at some point, our armed forces will be fighting out there. Obvs spies are always active.

It's highly irresponsible.

If you're not following me, think of Abu Ghraib and what US soldiers did to humiliate "the enemy". If they'd had the head of MI6 equivalent spouting this kind of thing, no doubt they'd have been "creative" in different directions.

But of course, maybe they'd have just read the tweets and said, "Oh wow, what an enlightened society. Please, educate us so we can rid ourselves of our bigoted views."

ThatsNotMyGolem · 27/02/2022 07:21

@Hawkins001, welcome. Fancy a vodka?

BettyFilous · 27/02/2022 07:10

That tweet about Stonewall points nails it. This is one of those ‘strong and visible leadership on LGBT+‘ virtual signalling statements for next year’s Workplace Equality Index submission dossier for sure. After I read about the Stonewall marking criteria a whole host of questionable choices by my previous employer’s leadership team fell into place for me.

FannyCann · 27/02/2022 07:05

Bother. Bold fail.

Alison, my busyness is to protect my family and my country against russian aggression and artillery shelling and rockets from russia. War is our reality today.Try to understand.