Don’t bother applying for a job if you think people can’t change sex, NHS trust tells health official

It's written all over your treatment of others? The way you clearly regard trans women not as human beings like you, but rather a "male" threat to "females" first and foremost, and little besides?

No. That is you projecting.

You are either projecting what you personally feel, or what you believe we think because of your very deep prejudice about people who post on this board.

Just admit it and move on. You have nothing compelling to offer and your assertions that 'x is what you believe' is getting really repetitive.

(Psst, Lekisa - usually a definition identifies the common characteristic/property between all examples of the thing it's defining, so that you're able say if something fits the definition or not. Your sequence of words didn't do that, so it's not exactly a "definition")

We can all see what you provided. A bot as your reference and some claptrap about identity and pronouns.

Well, that was par for the course, wasn't it?

I respect my right not to behave as if the world does because it would put a serious crimp in the launching of rockets and satellites. Plus, it would make me very worried about the accurate modelling of space.

There are times for coexisting peacefully with immersive fictions and times to set them aside for a while…

You did, and you've opted to pretend you didn't. As per usual

We can all see what you provided. A bot as your reference and some claptrap about identity and pronouns.

Actually it's more that we see everyone as human beings first, regardless of sex or gender, whereas you only see everyone through the lens of whether they're "male" or "female".

Ho hum. Just another misrepresentation based on your own deep prejudice.

Where has anyone on this thread or the others said that?

Nowhere.

It's 'just a word', I presume, is the argument?

"Woman" is a socially constructed gender identity. Usually comes with feminine terms, names, pronouns. There, that's the definition

Oh. That's bollocks, though.

Oh. And thank you for providing us the impetus to post many reasoned posts to refute the false analogies, the false comparisons, the misinformation, the clear illogic of your points.

Because that too has made the thread quite rich in the way those ridiculous claims can be rebutted. And a huge portion of them could be backed up with evidence too. Something you showed just how much you lacked.

So. Thanks for that.

[quote Waitwhat23]Bugger, this should work

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fuck, my eyes, what have you done, Waitwhat?!

"Woman" is a socially constructed gender identity. Usually comes with feminine terms, names, pronouns. There, that's the definition

We always say that TRAs don't see women as human, beings, people. Now we have proof.

Bugger, this should work

mobile.twitter.com/weetabix/status/1359074254789165059

Did we get a definition of woman, at all?

What do you think?

I fully expect this to be deleted....mobile.twitter.com/weetabix/status/1359074254789165059

""Excluding trans women is discrimination. It's really that simple. "Sex-based" discrimination is discrimination, even if you agree with it.""".

So excluding transwomen from a cervical smear is discrimination? Not inviting them to a mammogram is discrimination? Not giving them the HPV vaccine at school is discriminating? These are all things that are sex based, and yet none of them will ever be relevant to transwomen.
Why is that?

As for "woman" being a "socially constructed gender identity" - I'm sure all the women on a post natal ward are in awe of their socially constructed bodies which have just produced a child with their socially constructed uterus made from an egg with their socially constructed ovaries.
Next time I have period pain I will inform my socially constructed uterus to stop cramping.

Woman is a biological definition. It's a statement of fact. It's not opt-in or opt-out.
Woman has meant adult human female since language was invented. A few vocal men are really not going to change it.
I know that's very upsetting for some delicate people to hear, but it doesn't make it less true.

Yes these posters never realise what a service they are offering in allowing the paucity of their arguments to be made visible to lurkers.

Did we get a definition of woman, at all?

Yeah. Cos we don't report much. We ask MNHQ to leave posts and posters up, so the debate can be seen in all.of its glory.

We don't deplatform anyone unless they get truly unpleasant.

In fact we are so accommodating that one prolific TRA combatant used to report their own posts, so they could go to Twitter and cry about how much they were being silenced.

And we know they did this because they told us so. I am not guessing.

So to sum up:

Biological sex isn't a thing, it's a complete accident why people are assigned man and woman genders at birth by those transphobic doctors and nurses

The mysterious emergence of the woman "gender" is definitely not based on biological sex, because that doesn't exist, and it's not based on stereotypes because they don't exist either, it just emerged into being from nothing

Percentages are irrelevant to anything, who cares that practically all sex crime is committed by those small gamete people and mostly on large gamete people