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How does this help gay or gender-non-conforming children?

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JellySaurus · 22/02/2022 10:37

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-60464528

How does two straight men dressing up as an over-sexualised parody of women help gay or GNC children? Or even gay or GNC boys? Because it certainly doesn't help gay or GNC girls.

A friend's ds is a primary school teacher. NQT (or whatever it's called now. Anyway, young.) For Mental Health Week recently he wore a different feminine item to school every day. A dress, or skirt, or make-up, or accessory. That is supportive for GNC boys. That is teaching them all tolerance and acceptance of self-expression. Not teaching them that the only alternative to gung ho masculinity is to mock women while hiding yourself within the caricature.

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Justkeeppedaling · 22/02/2022 11:46

God I hate drag! I can't understand why it's not banned.

We're not allowed to dress up as black people (rightly so), so why are men allowed to parody women like that?

It's so bloody demeaning.

JellySaurus · 22/02/2022 11:38

@Innocenta

Some of the men appearing in that image search are the diametrically opposed, bottom of the barrel antithesis of positive role models. Sad
I have no idea who they are. I just searched for man wearing makeup.
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EeeICouldRipATissue · 22/02/2022 11:36

No, the mother, in quite possibly the most insincere video I’ve ever seen, says she thinks it will help her child, but we don’t hear from the child himself.

Yes, so we hear from the mother.
She's saying that by putting it onto a mainstream slot, people such as the bullies will maybe not be so quick to ridicule/bully as they might see actually its OK to dress up /wear make up?
Make the child feel more seen /confident to wear what they like?
No we don't hear from the child themselves, but surely the mum knows her child, interesting how you instantly try to write her off as insincere.

NotBadConsidering · 22/02/2022 11:34

And what’s with Ellis Atlantis saying there was no drag to see growing up. Born in 1994 as far as I can see. So never saw Lily Savage host a mainstream tv quiz show on the BBC until 2002 for example? Or does Ellis mean there was none of the pornified type drag queens that are common now?

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Innocenta · 22/02/2022 11:33

Some of the men appearing in that image search are the diametrically opposed, bottom of the barrel antithesis of positive role models. Sad

JellySaurus · 22/02/2022 11:30

@EeeICouldRipATissue

On reading the article, it gives an example. A boy who is being bullied for wearing make up, can now see that it's OK to be yourself, wear what you like, and by bringing it into a mainstream telly slot will hopefully make bullies think twice /change perspective.
These are supportive examples of and for boys who want to express themselves in an unconventional way.
How does this help gay or gender-non-conforming children?
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Whatwouldscullydo · 22/02/2022 10:57

Straight white men in drag are the face of diversity now. Dontcha know

EeeICouldRipATissue · 22/02/2022 10:49

On reading the article, it gives an example.
A boy who is being bullied for wearing make up, can now see that it's OK to be yourself, wear what you like, and by bringing it into a mainstream telly slot will hopefully make bullies think twice /change perspective.