"Why I stopped being a good girl" by Hadley Freeman

Hadley is in the Times today.

Guardian columnist Hadley Freeman says left-wing media bows down to trans bullies

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/26028b74-9333-11ec-9aec-82f0032d4cd3?shareToken=fe93b70b3898666d14a00ff041f21be7

Martha Lane Fox on Twitter calling it 'excellent writing' and also praising the Atwood interview.

It’s the rebelling against the old guard and the old fogeys - except even my parents were cool and quite non conforming.

To be fair it must be irritating that even your grandparents were cooler than you. All the good rebelling has been done.

That was a really good overview of the situation.

Marie Le Conte likes to label us as obsessed but she has her own obsession going on trying to silence and scold women on this topic. I find her so tedious.

Here is everything you need to know about The Guardian:

They would rather have Owen jones than Hadley Freeman

It's a brilliant piece of writing.

I was at college with Hadley. I'm so incredibly and irrationally proud of her for writing that article!!

Excellent article

Unfortunately i can’t comment on Grace Laverys penis quote because my reply includes swearing, gesticulating, insults and slurs regarding parentage and intelligence

Bloody hell, that is an excellent article.

This brought me up short, made me feel actually physically shocked:
Or how about this line from a recently published memoir by Grace Lavery: when describing how hormone treatment has affected her body, she writes that her penis felt “as though I were laying my own miscarried foetus across my hand”.
How can Lavery say that? Believe me, I'm tough enough to do home butchery, and finish off injured wildlife, and that inspired a visceral reaction. Mind you, I've had an actual miscarriage, pints of blood and a lost baby, and the grief and sense of bodily failure that goes with it - what would Lavery know about that?

Like Hadley, I don't want to outlaw offensive writing, but the double standard is utterly, utterly shocking. Under a previous name, I got a deletion on here for using the 'wrong' (that is, the biologically correct) pronoun for someone, but Lavery can write that, and it's just fine?

Bollocks it is.

Hadley has always been a fantastic writer and a voice of reason. Can’t tell you how validated and supported I feel reading this. Being a woman is more than a feeling. Your womanhood isn’t a floating thought bubble above you’re head its in every fibre- every cell of your being! Like it or not. Likewise with manhood. When did the word “gender” become inseparable from the word “identity”? Weren’t we all working towards removing gender roles until quite recently, not reinforcing them? Can’t I see someone’s identity without having to also think about their genitals? I literally couldn’t care less. But that is apparently bigotry and hateful. I hope more people are emboldened by this to stop capitulating to the bully mob on Twitter. Hadley you’re welcome for dinner at mine any time.

Brilliantly articulated Hadley!
👏👏👏

Well done, Hadley.

I don’t believe that you don’t at least lurk around here…

I wonder if one has to at some point stop being a 'good girl' and grow up and become a woman.

Watching this interesting talk just now, daringdoris!

Hadley is very brave, well done her. She writes, "I haven't lost my job over this". My mind added a loud YET. It's definitely a risk given what happened to Suzanne Moore.

Really good piece from Hadley, despite a bit of a side swipe at this fine parish

I’m also a former Good Girl (not in current good standing, due to being Very Not Good on this topic and not being a bit sorry about it) so it resonates from that angle.

That was to @ScrollingLeaves

Because I think there is a genuine distaste for mothers thinking outside the mothering sphere. It means that they are people too and I think some people find it difficult to think their mums could have any thoughts that didn't centre their children. And that's frightening. So they are dismissed because mums couldn't and shouldn't have independent thoughts.

She's fantastic isn't she? I listened to this over the weekend which I really enjoyed.

What is this idea though that if voices come from Mumsnet they are somehow less worthy? I had the sense that was implied.

Absolutely brilliant article.
But will her colleagues and other journalists stand up and be counted...

What a great piece from Hadley. I don’t know how she sticks the Guardian any more. If anyone knows her in the real world, perhaps point her to this thread so she knows that she’s not alone.

👏 Hadley. If only your colleagues were brave enough to stand with you publicly.

Wonderful article, thank you Hadley.

Brilliant piece, well done Hadley! I look forward to her book.

Michele Moore describes a teen, in the link below, with anorexia who then transitioned after being influenced by other trans I'd girls in the anorexia clinic she was in iirc.

The trans id then took precedence as "oh that's what it is!" But it wasn't and she had more mh issues laid on her shoulders.