Grace Lavery & Helen Joyce debate 1/4/2022 It is real

@DrudgeJedd I thought this justification from Sally Hines for not cancelling was ... interesting.

The second point about the funding is complicated. This project has been going on for five years. It has met all of its outputs/impact targets – i.e. it does not ‘need’ the conference. Due to events that did not take place due to Covid, there is money remaining that needs to be spent by the end of March or it will be returned to the university/funder. This is why we cannot postpone the event as it would have been the ideal solution. If we don’t hold the event now, we will not hold it. We will not be able to fund it again.

Does anybody think that the substitute event will attract protesters? I thought not until I saw what happened in Manchester last week.

So the much heralded debate isn't going ahead? What a surprise.

Looks like poor Grace is being no platformed by her own side again. The pro-trans conference they were due to speak at next month (organised by Sally Hines) is breaking the ucu strike apparently. It's all gone a bit circular firing squad, you'd need a heart of stone etc.... twitter.com/sally_hines/status/1504033257205211142?t=lIL3rYnh9Gsb9dbErHCyxw&s=19

I meant saga! My spice rack confused me...

This whole sage has displayed a lack of grace.

That Mail link is worth reading for the description of Jeremy Corbyn

It is

For the last few years I've tried to be a scholar, a public intellectual, and an author of creative prose"

Mate, for the last few years I've been trying to be thinner.

I'm fat as fuck.

With self awareness.

That Mail link is worth reading for the description of Jeremy Corbyn. They do repeat verbatim that Unherd/Unheard is a far right outlet though.

Something interesting is if you report someone on Twitter for tweeting "I hope the Queen dies" Twitter response is that it does NOT break their rules.

They then go on to provide this summary of what they agree is not allowed:

Here’s a summary of what isn’t allowed on Twitter, according to our safety policies.

•	Threatening violence against someone or a group of people
•	Celebrating or praising violence
•	Harassing someone or encouraging people to harass someone
•	Wishing harm on someone
•	Promoting violence, threatening, or harassing people because of their identity (like race or gender)
•	Promoting or encouraging suicide or self-harm
•	Images or videos that show sexual violence and assault
•	Child sexual exploitation
•	Threatening or promoting terrorism or violent extremism

@NotTerfNorCis I can see the argument there in that first wave feminism was more about removing sex based restrictions, abd that remains part of feminism. However, feminism not based on sex at all had to wait for the 4th wave, or whatever this is.

Ah. Thinks you shouldn't be banned from Twitter for wishing death on public figures (Mail story). I see where this is going - no harm done to JKR then was there. What's everyone so upset about.

And if we can't wish the queen dead then talk of succession is being suppressed. Right. Okay.

Absolutely hateful character. Misogyny off the scale.

Noted that Lavery thinks feminism has nothing to do with sex based rights. What is it based on, then?

PMSL at that Mail headline link

Dear lord. He's obviously never had any kind of prolonged dental treatment.

Should have just gone to the dentist, mate.

Oh god have you seen the latest?
t.co/tBzrHCDg8z

Wow.

I don’t get the impression Lavery’s unstable per se, it’s just a Trumpian relationship with the truth. And playing the victim note hard because TRAs eat that shit up with a spoon. What a sordid pathetic embarrassment of a human being.

I am bemused to see that the Mail has covered this grim person's twitter suspension. The bemused comments from DM readers demonstrates that have no idea of the real nature of this person :

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10542993/Berkeley-professor-suspended-Twitter-tweeting-hopes-COVID-stricken-Queen-DIES.html

I think Twitter is a horrible platform, that brings out the worst in people, not least because everything is too easily available and too easy to link to. I’m glad to see that there were a number of prominent women who called it out.

Yes I agree.

I have an account but it's mostly for lurking. Getting embroiled in twitter arguments was doing nothing good for me!

Livery is just a grotesque, Gumbo. After reading that I sincerely hope I never hear another word from them ever again. That's given me the absolute rage.

Anyone who believes a word of that histrionic nonsense would be an absolute fool.

Looks like someone did, yes.

That's a bit fucking creepy tbh and I don't agree with it at all.

I apologise for my previous assumption no woman would do this. I was rather assuming someone had taken the time to send a private e-mail, rather than sharing on Twitter.

I think Twitter is a horrible platform, that brings out the worst in people, not least because everything is too easily available and too easy to link to. I’m glad to see that there were a number of prominent women who called it out.

Lavery appears to be very unstable. The wild accusations are quite something.