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The villainy of JK Rowling

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sacredfeminina · 18/02/2022 23:43

thecritic.co.uk/issues/february-2022/the-villainy-of-j-k-rowling/

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NitroNine · 22/02/2022 15:27

@WomenFromVenusDoNotHaveAPenis

Careful now, you’ll be getting yourself screenshotted for Twitter as further evidence that we are all rabidly transphobic far-right evangelical Christians committing “literal violence” with our heavily moderated words at every turn.

Ribboning sprees? That’s the sort of talk (& thing) that makes TRAs “feel unsafe”*. If this were Twitter or Reddit they’d be reporting you like mad for so clearly threatening every single trans person in the world (by virtue of your anonymity - you & those Ribbons Of Doom could be lurking anywhere, damnit!) by suggesting you might go a-ribboning.

I quite like the idea of branching out, personally: women in Morris Dancing remains a feminist issue (not at the top of the list of problems to solve, but their exclusion & the ahistorical remodelling of the Morris is still a feminist issue) so a few GC sides with costumes of purple, white & green (& violets for their flowers, obviously) would cover a couple of bases. (And while on the topic, big fat WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK to how EFDSS describe Molly Dancing: There are similarities to today where we find cross-dressing by stag parties funny when the groom is dressed up as an unconvincing woman. Sorry EFDSS, who finds that funny?! Hmm Angry )

As well as having teams for causing “the [tiny] bells! the [tiny] bells!” responses everywhere they go; Ribbons Are For Hair, Not Just For Hateful Haberdashery. Not the full Jo-Jo bow (unless that’s one’s style of choice, of course) but obviously they are the original Alice band & they are excellent for covering hairbands securing buns/plaits/ponytails… of course, if you THEN have an insatiable need to leave a ribbon somewhere, you have one handy. If you i. have to order rosettes for something & ii. have latitude as to the colours - you know what to do. Are people still hiding decorated stones for others to find? Only the purple, green & white paint/pens seem to be available. Christmas angel? Suffragette angel. ALL the nail art you can dream up (& then manage to realise) using green white & purple. Pick-up hockey games & creating public art using old hockey sticks (in late C19/early C20 hockey was thought to be a very hazardous part of the whole girls’ school business as it would clearly damage girls’ potential reproductive abilities); perhaps finished work could be contrasted with some of the TRA baseball bat images & claims about GC women’s “literal violence”.

Am going to be quiet now. And, er, apologies to any innocent Morris Sides who now end up accused of raging TERFery Blush Though of course, if that were to then lead to their Radicalisation by MumsNet & that spreading… Grin

*whereas the “fuck TERFs” stickers with violent imagery are Just A Meme & women have no right to complain about them

georgarina · 22/02/2022 12:26

@DisappearingGirl

Besides, why on earth would a serial rapist claim to be female in order to be locked up with hundreds of vulnerable women? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Precisely! This seems such an obvious point I can't really understand why people fail (or refuse) to see it

Because its importance doesn't override the importance of seeming right on in their minds

Basically the same issue as things like Rotherham. Girls'/womens' safety isn't as important as remaining politically on side, so the issue gets ignored.

WomenFromVenusDoNotHaveAPenis · 22/02/2022 10:09

@NitroNine

I think - but I am not a lawyer (nor do I so much as play one on television) - that if someone were truly determined to punish a ribboner, it would come under littering, the same way yarn-bombing does. Throughout Scotland you [can] get a Fixed Penalty Notice of £80 for dropping litter, but as the previous link mentions there’s discretion to increase the amount for persistent offenders.

So to arrest her they’d have to find some way to twist things (JKR could be arrested for attempting to ribbon Nicola Sturgeon perhaps*?); & to be honest even fining her if they caught her on a wild ribboning spree would make them look absurd. More absurd than usual, I mean.

  • sounds like a suggestion for a paper game of some kind… a postmodern (or perhaps post-apocalyptic) version of Consequences?

I can't tell you how much I want to go on a wild ribboning spree Grin Fabulous wording!

NitroNine · 22/02/2022 03:41

@thatdarncat

Alas that nobody is minded to employ me to share my insights with the world. Frankly am uncertain how the world copes without my incisive commentary & wit; but somehow it keeps turning…

Police Scotland’s fixation is even stranger when you look at the Hate Crime Stats for Scotland. Disability hate crime has been increasing ever since the EA was brought in. And it’s really widely known that this particular flavour of hate-crime is significantly under-reported. I don’t think the types of crimes are likely to be dramatically different from those committed in England & Wales, either, so the rise in violent crime with a targeted element of disability hate would (& should) be getting Police Scotland’s attention really, you’d think.

Naturally Police Scotland have got Stonewall’s handy “Hate Crime Guide” to help them with “protecting lesbian, gay, bisexual & trans people in Scotland”. (Rather an incomplete guide to Hate Crime, really. As a file name, putting in LGBT at the start wouldn’t have made it too long or clunky, while making it accurate - helpful for people who, unlike Stonewall, are concerned with the other protected characteristics. People like the police, for example. That said, their contortionist act does make slightly more sense when viewed through the lens of the absolute battering of all the “the LGBT community don’t trust the police in the slightest” statistics that Stonewall Guide is comprised of.

Astonishingly, the CPS haven’t made a jazzy booklet, so how could the police know that:
Many disabled people do not report crime to the police because of a lack of confidence in the criminal justice system. When offences are eventually reported, previous failures to report should not be seen as diminishing a witness's credibility.?!
I mean, As. If. anyone actually reads the prosecution guidance, right? Or reports by charities that are not about disabled people hating the police or even just media coverage.

Plus we all know that Scotland has never ever had any issues with sectarianism EVER. No.

And of course we all know that racism is over because lots of people - including famous ones - said #BLM/knelt down at all SORTS of sportsball things to protest /posted black squares on their on their instas. So no need for Police Scotland to worry about the racism. I mean, those might be the most common form of hate crime in Scotland, but now racism is totally fixed that’s bound to just sort itself out.

So Police Scotland are actively trying to solicit reports of transphobia when there is - despite what one might infer from Stonewall’s Hate Crime Guide - no evidence of that demographic being backwards in coming forwards in terms of reporting transphobia.* Was it Scotland where one of the transphobic hate incidents that was logged was someone yelling the slur for a trans person that rhymes with an abbreviation for grandmother out of a van at someone? (Wherever it is, the police service are fortunate indeed misogyny isn’t a hate crime; because they’d be totally overwhelmed by reports within, oh, minutes? Indeed, if we left aside misogyny & could instead report people for being inappropriate towards children in the same flaggy way hate incident things work we’d knock police services flat because there is so much egregious behaviour to be reported. But I digress quite massively…)

  • Or rather, the subset represented by Stonewall.
thatdarncat · 22/02/2022 01:10

@NitroNine you are painfully bang on with Scotland’s approach.

NitroNine · 22/02/2022 01:02

I think - but I am not a lawyer (nor do I so much as play one on television) - that if someone were truly determined to punish a ribboner, it would come under littering, the same way yarn-bombing does. Throughout Scotland you [can] get a Fixed Penalty Notice of £80 for dropping litter, but as the previous link mentions there’s discretion to increase the amount for persistent offenders.

So to arrest her they’d have to find some way to twist things (JKR could be arrested for attempting to ribbon Nicola Sturgeon perhaps*?); & to be honest even fining her if they caught her on a wild ribboning spree would make them look absurd. More absurd than usual, I mean.

  • sounds like a suggestion for a paper game of some kind… a postmodern (or perhaps post-apocalyptic) version of Consequences?
SwissBall · 21/02/2022 22:56

Do you think if JKR went out ribboning the police in Scotland would arrest her? I’d mean they’d want to but do you think they’d actually be scared of the publicity and subsequent spotlight on them and their behaviour?

highame · 21/02/2022 12:36

[quote ChristinaXYZ]Another bit of JKR satire

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Excellent Grin

NitroNine · 21/02/2022 10:23

@BewareTheBeardedDragon

TBH at this stage - given they don’t seem to understand you can’t delete other people’s tweets Hmm - I’m not sure if they know.

Anyway, We Are Fair Cop complained to them about sinister over-reach & SWP got into a tizz about how people had completely misunderstood their perfectly innocent comment. And hid the rats a bit better.

ChristinaXYZ · 21/02/2022 09:50

Another bit of JKR satire

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/02/2022 09:20
Grin
highame · 21/02/2022 08:56

For those who haven't had the joy of Titania McGraths views here's the twitter link Grin
twitter.com/TitaniaMcGrath?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

spacehardware · 21/02/2022 08:20

"given that women are woefully underrepresented in the prison population, surely a male inmate transitioning to female can only be a good thing"

There's a not so dark corner of the internet where men say things like this all the time. If you point out 98% of sexual crimes are committed by men, and 88% of their victims are female, you're a misandrist. They are mad.

Cuck00soup · 21/02/2022 08:09

Such an informative article.

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 21/02/2022 07:40

Wait, what - South Wales Police actually have a MN team? And that is not a joke?

NitroNine · 21/02/2022 06:45

Actually - prompted by exchange with Mummyoflittledragon - wasn’t it Police Scotland who said they were going to investigate every report they received of someone looking at a trans person a bit funny?

So I wonder how many reports the police in Edinburgh are now having to deal with over “Joanne Rowling and the Relentless Transphobia”? Hmm

I would be utterly astonished if they hadn’t already had to put up with pretty-much endless nonsense (potentially right up to claims of her causing crops to fail & cows to stop giving milk etc) but surely that announcement must have kicked things up a notch?

Do you think Police Scotland have a special Mumsnet Team like South Wales Police* or that they have to rely on information-sharing? If they DO have an MN-Team what do we think their favourite biscuits are do you think they have to cover the Rowling complaints too? Or would they just be a small part of the Rowling Taskforce? (And if enough officers revive the Muggletonians could they claim their faith compels them to curse people making these complaints? It seems these days nobody bothers to stretch before making far greater reaches, so…)

  • can you even imagine explaining that your work in “cybercrime” was not to, for example, do things similar to the work of NCMEC in the US, or stopping hackers from holding the NHS to ransom/stealing State secrets, or bringing down Dark Web drug rings; but rather, you are tasked with monitoring highly-moderated message boards because Women Are Having Opinions AND EXPRESSING THEM!?
DisappearingGirl · 19/02/2022 09:16

Besides, why on earth would a serial rapist claim to be female in order to be locked up with hundreds of vulnerable women? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Precisely! This seems such an obvious point I can't really understand why people fail (or refuse) to see it

NecessaryScene · 19/02/2022 09:08

It’s incredibly hard to tell who’s joking anymore

Titania's not joking. She's here to educate you.

Bigots.

napody · 19/02/2022 09:04

@ThatsWhenTheCannibalismStarted

'...given that women are woefully underrepresented in the prison population, surely a male inmate transitioning to female can only be a good thing.'

Ha!

Hahaha this was my favourite line too.
Theimpossiblegirl · 19/02/2022 08:57

Brilliant.
I bloody love JKR and stand with her completely.

rabbitwoman · 19/02/2022 08:54

You know, the thing is I could post that article on my Facebook page and quite a few people would not know it was satire.

Also, I expect if a few of the teenagers I know read it they would start believing that jkr actually DID say the opposite of what she actually meant as a signal to transphobes....

Not saying they're stupid. Saying this is upside down world where people really DO think it makes no sense for a male to claim to be female just to gain access to female spaces.....

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/02/2022 08:52

Rufus, yes is hard to know who’s joking anymore. I really didn’t take this as a joke. Everything is far too serious in this life. And thanks for telling me it was hopefully a joke anothersmahed.

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 19/02/2022 08:43

I thought so too mummy (jesus that gave me flashbacks 😳)

It’s incredibly hard to tell who’s joking anymore

anothersmahedmug · 19/02/2022 08:38

I think it was a tease/joke

Mummyoflittledragon · 19/02/2022 08:36

@NecessaryScene

I take it the Titiana face is computer generated.

Shock Lucky Titania's not here to hear your gross judging of women's appearances.

What? I’m talking about this person does not exist. www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/