Lia Thomas is the Ivy League Champion in the 500 free

Thomas is a bloke, right? Who self-identifies as a girl - either way enjoys sport and just claimed a women’s sport title?

Is that the issue - sorry, I’m confused by Lia, the forename and pix of Thomas that show a man.

I'm not a sporty person but I am so angry at these cheats in women's sport.

The mail report shows everything we know. Thomas is male and women cannot compete against men. Nothing will change until men cheat their way into women's sports in huger numbers so it is blatant and rules are changed. I think it will take years to go through.

Those asking why Thomas doesn't have a conscience could also ask why do more males act violently to women than the reverse - it's all male entitlement.

I once thought a comment I made was deleted due to use of the term "male person" but apparently it was deleted for use of the term "peak trans" so it seems to depend.... But anyway.... Life in the Gulag....

The Mail continuing to report on the issues:

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10528815/US-track-star-says-allowing-male-bodied-athletes-compete-end-womens-sport.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed_article_desktop_tvshowbiz

this meet took place in Cambridge MA near me. It is almost entirely unreported. The Boston Globe - newspaper for the area - has mention of it on its sports pages in the also ran section - well below reports of high school sports etc. The reporting itself makes no mention of how Thomas was on the mens team until 2019 and doesn't even make a stab at nuanced reporting on the subject. The feelings/achievements and consequences for the female members of the team are unreported. Meanwhile there are headlines on that abused 15 year old in Russia who won nothing in the end. I really feel bad for the female team members who not only have to endure this cheating, they are stuck in a situation where they can't speak openly about it or they will be trashed in public.

If a clearly male body can blow records in a sports and no mainstream sports reporters have the courage to call it as it is ... well that's it for women's sports here. It is incredibly depressing and just plain wrong. We all know what we are seeing.

It has it's own T+Cs and enforced speech, so as not upset The Feelz, is one of them! As I pointed out to A N Other poster on a thread that inexplicably remained in AIBU - until it was deleted.

And now since the Scottish case on the definition of Woman we should definitely be allowed to say it.

My comment was deleted.

I would have thought since Maya Forstater’s court case that we had a right to refer to Thomas as male?

I despise every single person who see's this and remains silent. Every single one.

I bet Lia sleeps extremely well at night and possibly often throughout the day

But then, doping has been around d for years, so for some people it must just be the winning.

There must be a particular sort of thrill in being able to openly cheat and people not being able to stop you.

What is Lia getting out of this?

But then, doping has been around d for years, so for some people it must just be the winning.

Is it though? The very first man taking a woman's place/medal/record should have ended this but it hasn't. Women being physically beaten by men in MMA should have ended it but it didn't. Why not?

I suppose one answer is that people don't care about women, and they don't care about women's sport in particular. Another is that it will take something really high-profile to change things - a man winning the women's Olympic 100m sprint, for example. College championships don't cut through to the general public.

I'm not sure what's worse - the fact that Lia decided (and was allowed) to take part in the women's event, or the fact that after absolutely smashing the first women's record, Lia is now doing some really lazy swimming in order to still win but not smash records in quite such a flagrant way. Lia knows. And everyone else knows.

www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/transgender-swimmer-lia-thomas-blitzes-us-rivals-at-college-championships/news-story/1d8a6f08063eb37915dde00babcd61a5

Interesting comments.

Every win for Lia Thomas brings more sunlight.

Congratulations, Catherine Buroker.

It’s not exactly a big surprise is it? I would absolutely smash my local primary school’s sports day, but it doesn’t seem much to write home about. This headline is as shocking as announcing an orca won the swim race!

Almost every tweet is congratulating Catherine Buroker for her win. Because she was the winner.

I'm surprised the Penn Swim twitter account didn't lock the tweet regarding the win. They are getting an absolute pasting in the replies and rightfully so! Not sure whether it was an oversight but over 3K replies later they still haven't locked it, not that I think they will actually read or respond to anything. More like past caring what people say (like they ever did) because they've made their position clear and are pushing forward in support of a cheat.

But apparently all the girls think this is wonderful, its just women who have no idea about sport complaining...

It's an absolute travesty.

Congratulations to Catherine Buroker. Rightful winner!!!