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Cismyfatarse · 17/02/2022 07:41

Today the BBC has 2 articles about Scotland. Please start to push hard against this in any way you can. There are lots of ways to try to do something.

The divide over Scotland’s gender laws www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-60214574

What are the plans for transgender reforms in Scotland? www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-60221034

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Realityisreal · 17/02/2022 09:21

We've seen how easy it is to stifle debate and stop the spread of information. Even on this site we can't discuss it openly amongst people who are currently unaware but who may also be impacted by any reforms, we're pushed to an area where only those that are already aware will be.
If the trans position is so clear and virtuous why would they have any problem with everyone hearing their goals and debating any impact?

teawamutu · 17/02/2022 09:21

The awareness can only rise, though.

A couple of years ago it would have been in single figures.

DomesticatedZombie · 17/02/2022 09:17

And again, it's the specifics of the issue that people haven't really thought about. Shown here, with more support for a vague 'yes' to self ID, (40% supported allowing transgender people to self-identify) but:

'28% said that transgender people should be able to access single sex spaces even if they had not had gender reassignment surgery.'

Which is about the level of support that generally seems to come up when the situation is explained clearly.

'In contrast to the online debate, which is undoubtedly deeply polarised, the general public are not particularly sure and only about a third are following the issue closely.'

littlbrowndog · 17/02/2022 09:16

Yeah a lot of people don’t seem to know what it actually means

ScrollingLeaves · 17/02/2022 09:15

It looks as though it is women themselves who are the most likely to be in favour on a number of the gender identity related questions.

On the other hand a large proportion of people seem not to have a clear idea of the whole issue in the first place.

OldCrone · 17/02/2022 09:14

This was covered on the Today programme on Radio 4 this morning, about 20 minutes before the end.

www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0014gmj

DomesticatedZombie · 17/02/2022 09:13

'debate has been raging for a while, with strong opinions on both sides, but the survey suggests that most people (67%) have not been following it closely...'.

This is the thing. No matter how much we think there's been so much 'sunlight', the large majority of people just aren't aware of what's happening.