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GG Australia sacks CEO

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UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 09:16

For asking if we can go back to biological girls only. www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10504417/Sacked-Girl-Guides-CEO-claims-victim-cancel-culture-tweet-trans-girls.html

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Datun · 17/02/2022 10:11

@Helleofabore

Oops! X stuff = interests associated with the opposite sex in a mind filled with sexed stereotypes.
It's utterly ingrained. Just to different degrees.

Which is why I sincerely believe that the upside to this entire shit show is the number of feminists it's creating.

Anyone who actually listens to why transgenderism is harmful to women gets an instant and powerful glimpse of what feminism is about, and why.

You can't talk about damaging stereotypes, without explaining what they're based on and how they benefit men.

Every cloud, and all that...

Helleofabore · 17/02/2022 08:32

Oops! X stuff = interests associated with the opposite sex in a mind filled with sexed stereotypes.

Helleofabore · 17/02/2022 08:31

It explodes my mind datun.

Even worse, when we moved to the UK, my very typical Aussie 10 yr old was constantly subject to ‘ew! You like x stuff’ and had to defend their interests. Which in Sydney were completely unremarkable and in fact, many friends were the same. In London, were worthy of shame and derogation apparently amongst some girls. Absolutely destructive in an anxious child trying to make friends.

So, to see GG Australia take this direction is worrying on so many layers.

Datun · 17/02/2022 08:15

@Helleofabore

I almost think the worst bit is booting out girls who think they are boys.

I am horrified at that thought too.

Same here. It's unforgivably misogynistic.

An organisation set up to support and encourage girls in a patriarchal society is suddenly endorsing the exact opposite. Only allowing acceptance based on 'femininity'.

That's what the ideology stands for. Boys can come and be treated as special if they're feminine enough, but girls must fuck off if they're too masculine.

It's now a hot house for promoting sexism.

Shame on them.

OperationDessertStorm · 17/02/2022 08:15

More power to your elbow Karyn!

Hope we can help.

UnadulteratedCat · 17/02/2022 07:57

Hello @KarynLisignoli I’m in Adelaide and withdrew my daughter from GG Victoria a few years ago. If I can help or donate to anything please let me know.
I stand with you.

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lborgia · 17/02/2022 01:55

Scouting Australia is one of the most toxic organisations I've ever had the misfortune to be mixed up with. None of this surprises me, but I would be extremely surprised if anything changed in the next 10 years.

None of it is about the kids, it's all about the adults and power. The revolting incidences that were swept under the carpet, or completely denied in a "well it's he said/she said" was like something out of a 70s nightmare.

Hats off to those that continue to try and fight.

timeisnotaline · 17/02/2022 01:38

If that’s you @KarynLisignoli you should be proud of standing up for what’s right, and I hope you’re ok. Are there any grounds to challenge?

That article still has only the two comments but hugely downvoted, definitely fishy!!

KarynLisignoli · 16/02/2022 20:29

That was one of my biggest concerns too… the very girls ‘we’ should have been taking care of 💔

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 16/02/2022 07:34

Well done, Karyn! This misogyny flourishes in the dark, and transactivists hate having the light shone on rhem. The more people hear about this, the better.

LunaLights · 15/02/2022 23:47

Thanks for posting, @TheSandgroper.

TheSandgroper · 15/02/2022 11:17

Thanks, Karyn, for your bravery.

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timeisnotaline · 13/02/2022 19:18

@Mummyoflittledragon

I wonder if dismissing an employee in this way would hold up in court in Australia.
I expect it’s fairly straightforward to dismiss a ceo for reputational issues, it’s how all the high profile dismissals go.
Mummyoflittledragon · 13/02/2022 06:16

I wonder if dismissing an employee in this way would hold up in court in Australia.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 13/02/2022 05:13

In a letter Ms Lisignoli was told she had 'caused a ­serious and imminent risk to the reputation of the organisation'.

She has indeed. Presumably the new regime has been introduced wholly under the radar and now the cat is out of the bag.

Or are they seriously trying to imply that the general public would see her as transphobic for believing it’s inappropriate to have teenage boys sharing tents with younger girls?

DifficultBloodyWoman · 13/02/2022 04:15

@GlorianaCervixia

I think Karyn is considering whether to look at legal options over this.

It's depressing in Australia right now. This, and the recent chaos of the religious discrimination bill that had journalists and politicians talking about trans kids as if they were an orientation exactly the same as gay kids, has highlighted how far behind we are.

You’re so right. The media coverage was a joke with absolutely no critical thinking.

The media did nothing to enlighten people about the debate.

I really wish someone would just stand up and say - we are single sex organisation and welcome all genders - just to get the point across.

DifficultBloodyWoman · 13/02/2022 04:12

I don’t have a twitter account but could I please ask if anyone here does, that they tweet Karyn and suggest she visit this board?

I would like her to know that she has support.

GlorianaCervixia · 13/02/2022 01:40

I think Karyn is considering whether to look at legal options over this.

It's depressing in Australia right now. This, and the recent chaos of the religious discrimination bill that had journalists and politicians talking about trans kids as if they were an orientation exactly the same as gay kids, has highlighted how far behind we are.

UnadulteratedCat · 12/02/2022 20:45

Excellent article Sandgroper. I don’t know if Karyn has any gardening that needs doing or if she’s even intent on fighting.

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:06

The top photo is 3/3.

I hope Karyn hangs in there.

TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:05

Photo 2

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:04

Ok. Photo 1

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TheSandgroper · 12/02/2022 14:04

I hope these photos work.

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Manderleyagain · 12/02/2022 12:01

I thought thd comments was the weirdest thing. For me it's the .co.uk web address, but I guess it's actually thd Australian paper. The moderators have been taking lessons from the guardian? There's no way the comments wld look like that here.
Fancy being sacked for asking a question.

Helleofabore · 12/02/2022 11:58

I almost think the worst bit is booting out girls who think they are boys.

I am horrified at that thought too.