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Adele

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DomesticatedZombie · 09/02/2022 11:06

Twitter currently ablaze with suggestions that Adele is 'ter*y' for saying 'I love being a woman'.

twitter.com/OhHeyJacob/status/1491171825019396100

' ... just the use of the word female with the way it was stressed could be easy misinterpreted.'

This is where we are, people. Have you now or have you ever stressed the word 'female' in a way that could be 'easy misinterpreted'? Because if so, we're going to need to check your thinking.

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rabbitwoman · 15/02/2022 06:57

..... and Adele herself has not said anything to confirm, deny or clarify her statements and there must be a reason for that, but I sure hope she has scheduled in a gin and tonic with jk Rowling in the next few weeks....

rabbitwoman · 15/02/2022 06:56

@ItsLateHumpty

And if you can’t read my attachment, here is the text

“Because they’ve had an unmoderated cess pool called Mumsnet radicalising them for years. Go in looking for how to get your kid to eat more carrots, come out a raging transphobe.”

Yes, pretty much that's exactly what happened to me, although I would not use the phrase 'raging transphobe.'

More like, the harms that hastily thought out and implemented policies were actually bringing to children, women and the trans community were actually being named, discussed and evidence was being presented as it should have been from the start.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 15/02/2022 06:50

@Enough4me

I thought I read that the person who said Adele said words to the effect that anyone can be a woman deleted their original tweet. Wondering if anyone knows if this was confirmed?
I think so - the screenshot someone posted earlier in this thread seems to have disappeared.
ItsLateHumpty · 15/02/2022 00:45

And if you can’t read my attachment, here is the text

“Because they’ve had an unmoderated cess pool called Mumsnet radicalising them for years. Go in looking for how to get your kid to eat more carrots, come out a raging transphobe.”

ItsLateHumpty · 15/02/2022 00:43

Fell down the Adel mimmybirthingperson Twitter and found this….

twitter.com/arsey/status/1491849411109933059

Polishes halo 😇

Adele
youvegottenminuteslynn · 15/02/2022 00:15

Wait so if TRAs say Trans Women are Women then why would her saying she loves being a woman be offensive?

They are the people who compel others to say that Trans Women are Women so to say that her comment alienates Trans Women is surely saying that Trans Women aren't women... the very belief they say is offensive and literal violence.

So the logic is basically natal women can't comment on anything using the word women unless the comment is verbatim 'trans women are women' or they are transphobic? But TRAs or trans women can use the word woman to describe the experience of trans women?

Don't they get tired of being hypocritical? Aren't they embarrassed that logic is apparently absent from their arguments?

Ffs. So sick of this absolutely clear cut bullying of women.

Enough4me · 15/02/2022 00:00

I thought I read that the person who said Adele said words to the effect that anyone can be a woman deleted their original tweet.
Wondering if anyone knows if this was confirmed?

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 14/02/2022 20:38

@fridgepants

Your implication is that reporting on video games = not a proper journo.
He might be great reporting on video games but he’s not reporting on video games, is he?

He’s reporting a second hand Twitter comment with no corroboration.

fridgepants · 14/02/2022 20:27

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TheAbbotOfUnreason · 14/02/2022 12:20

So you think that a video games reporter third hand reporting some Twitter comment about transphobes without any actual corroboration is a bastion of journalism?

Probably why they’re not actually working for a proper newspaper.

fridgepants · 14/02/2022 09:29

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TheAbbotOfUnreason · 14/02/2022 07:22

That piece in The Independent was written by someone who describes themselves as a video games reporter.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 14/02/2022 07:19

I haven’t seen a video clip of Adele saying “You’re all women who identify as women", just reports of people saying that she said it.

WarriorN · 14/02/2022 07:07

That's his interpretation. She's not used the word transphobe at all.

TheAbbotOfUnreason · 14/02/2022 07:05

"Adele just turned up on stage at G-A-Y to stick two fingers up to every transphobe who misinterpreted her words at the Brits and told the crowd: ‘You’re all women who identify as women."

Looking forward to seeing a video clip of Adele saying that, given we have the video clips of Adele telling a woman that she fucking loves females at the same event.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/02/2022 00:08

Ben Butterworth is the person who identified as Black for an NHS LGBT conference, isn't he?

He said that he had a black stepmother to justify it, IIRC.

BraveBananaBadge · 14/02/2022 00:04

@MargaritaPie

"The quote about 'identifying as women' is another one that could be taken whichever way really"

I would presume she is implying that in her view those who identify as women [i.e. transwomen] are women?

Assume and imply what you like, it doesn't make it so. She could have said anyone who identifies as a bloody duck and it would have got a cheer.
bishophaha · 13/02/2022 23:55

Ben Butterworth is the person who identified as Black for an NHS LGBT conference, isn't he?

SteamPunks · 13/02/2022 23:44

Fed up with seeing Adele on tv etc but admire her for this and hope she doesn't backtrack too.

Warmduscher · 13/02/2022 23:40

@MargaritaPie

"The quote about 'identifying as women' is another one that could be taken whichever way really"

I would presume she is implying that in her view those who identify as women [i.e. transwomen] are women?

If that’s the case it would be great if she actually meant that it was “in her view”.

Because were told over and over again that TWAW is a factual statement. Someone saying it’s just their own personal view is a tiny step in the right direction.

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DomesticatedZombie · 13/02/2022 23:31
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NotBadConsidering · 13/02/2022 23:26

@MargaritaPie

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/adele-brits-trans-speech-gay-b2012898.html

Since the initial comment, Adele has clarified her statement:

"Adele just turned up on stage at G-A-Y to stick two fingers up to every transphobe who misinterpreted her words at the Brits and told the crowd: ‘You’re all women who identify as women."

Hold up: so now the narrative is that it was “transphobes” who took Adele’s words as some sort of rallying cry celebrating Terfdom, when it was actually TRAs losing their shit interpreting her words as transphobic?

mobile.twitter.com/blablafishcakes/status/1492562480341651456?s=21

And the “proof” of this is a quote in the i paper from i “journalist” Benjamin “saying ‘no one is born in the wrong body’ is transphobic” Butterworth?

😆😆🤣🤣

MargaritaPie · 13/02/2022 23:24

"The quote about 'identifying as women' is another one that could be taken whichever way really"

I would presume she is implying that in her view those who identify as women [i.e. transwomen] are women?

BraveBananaBadge · 13/02/2022 23:05

Has Adele started referring to herself in the third person, because that doesn't really read like her 'clarifying her statement' or 'sticking two fingers up' more than a simpleton at the i with an agenda putting words in her mouth.

The quote about 'identifying as women' is another one that could be taken whichever way really. It doesn't really mean anything and fair play to her.

I just finished watching Drag Race, and now I'm here. Perfectly capable of doing both.

MargaritaPie · 13/02/2022 21:55

www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/news/adele-brits-trans-speech-gay-b2012898.html

Since the initial comment, Adele has clarified her statement:

"Adele just turned up on stage at G-A-Y to stick two fingers up to every transphobe who misinterpreted her words at the Brits and told the crowd: ‘You’re all women who identify as women."