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Protest at MOJ in London, Saturday 12th

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EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 08/02/2022 18:32

‘No Males in Female Jails’ protest this Saturday, starting 1pm outside the Ministry of Justice, 102 Petty France, SW1H 9AJ. Opposite St James’s Park tube.

Protest at MOJ in London, Saturday 12th
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Isthatthebestyoucando · 09/02/2022 20:50

You don't think cost of living and inequality are women's problems? They affect every woman I know, much more universally and profoundly than the existence of trans people affects them.

Yes that's what they are protesting the existence of trans people, not a group of trans people specifically removed from society because they are convicted sex offenders being thrown in with the most vulnerable women who have no means of escape from them.

I wish I could be there this weekend, I can't make this one.
To people worried, I've been to a couple of these protests now (not organised by KPSS, but with many of the same attendees) and I have to say these women are very welcoming, it's a very diverse group young to old. I went to the last protest knowing no one and I had a great time.

Tiphaine · 09/02/2022 20:35

Kind of tragic, to be a sort of modern day Inquisitor, ever on the lookout for signs of heresy and wrongthink, constantly chiding those who do not follow your religion for their unpardonable lack of belief. And of course setting yourself up as some kind of infallible moral authority, unalive to the bigotry and hatred lurking within your own bosom.

Yep. Fervently puritanical zealots.

Ides · 09/02/2022 20:24

Although only 1% of the women in women's prisons are transwomen, CorrBlimeyGG, it only takes one person, born male, to oppress all the women around her. That's what makes this such an urgent issue.

TheFnozwhowasmirage · 09/02/2022 20:06

Domesticated Zombie I can't help with your timetable,clothing ect,as I too have been cursed with the tiny ladybrain. But I can help with the 'posture' question. You should definitely assume the head tilt. All ladies do that,it's how we signal that we are ladies on the rare occasions that glitter,handbags,pink clothing and skin tight clothing are unavailable. I know this because men who have the ladyfeelz always do the head tilt.

DomesticatedZombie · 08/02/2022 22:09

Oh, this is the thread for Male Instructions? Thank goodness! I nearly went and did a load of stuff off my own bat using my silly ole ladybrain!

GG can you please give me a full timetable of what I should be doing this weekend, where I should be going and what pressing issues I should be considering? Advice on outfits and posture would also be helpful!

I shall await further instruction. Thanks. Smile

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 08/02/2022 21:58

@tabletopgreen

The policing is strong on this one.

What a strange way to live.

It is, isn’t it.

Kind of tragic, to be a sort of modern day Inquisitor, ever on the lookout for signs of heresy and wrongthink, constantly chiding those who do not follow your religion for their unpardonable lack of belief. And of course setting yourself up as some kind of infallible moral authority, unalive to the bigotry and hatred lurking within your own bosom.

Strange compulsion indeed.

GuidingforDummies · 08/02/2022 21:12

You don't think cost of living and inequality are women's problems? They affect every woman I know, much more universally and profoundly than the existence of trans people affects them.

Don't you care about women being raped and abused in prisons, a place where they are at their most vulnerable?

Helleofabore · 08/02/2022 21:09

your husband will remind you gently that of course you’d be allowed to, it’s just that you’re not capable of it. Now wouldn’t you like to sit down and do some sewing?

Of course. SwissBall. Of course. I need to remember my place in the world.

Artichokeleaves · 08/02/2022 20:58

@CorrBlimeyGG

Aren't you going to the protest against the cost of living crisis, asking the government to urgently tackle inequality? That affects hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, mostly women. Starts at midday at Parliament Square, with solidarity protests across the country.
No.

But have fun.

MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2022 20:51

@Yogipineapple123

Is there likely to be conflict at this protest? I would like to show my support but I’m worried about it getting out of hand.
Any protest has that risk. I was kettled as a young un! Really scary.

However you can do some things to protect yourself. Wearing very sensible shoes is my favourite! Stay away from troublemakers. They're fairly obvious. Stay nearish to the police and chat to them. Know a few ways to get back to public transport. Alleyways and cut-throughs. Leave earlier than the end. That kind of thing.

Yogipineapple123 · 08/02/2022 20:47

Is there likely to be conflict at this protest? I would like to show my support but I’m worried about it getting out of hand.

SwissBall · 08/02/2022 20:44

Will also ask him if I am allowed to be concerned about multiple issues at once

Come on Helleofabore your husband will remind you gently that of course you’d be allowed to, it’s just that you’re not capable of it. Now wouldn’t you like to sit down and do some sewing?

Rheopecticfluid · 08/02/2022 20:39

You don't think cost of living and inequality are women's problems? They affect every woman I know, much more universally and profoundly than the existence of trans people affects them.

Enjoy your march. I take it you don't care much about women being forced to share with born males in prisons.

If I go to one it will be the MOJ one.

☺️

Rheopecticfluid · 08/02/2022 20:35

@CorrBlimeyGG

Aren't you going to the protest against the cost of living crisis, asking the government to urgently tackle inequality? That affects hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, mostly women. Starts at midday at Parliament Square, with solidarity protests across the country.
No.
RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 08/02/2022 20:28

[quote EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn]Keep Prisons Single Sex aren’t organising this protest, but there is a lot of useful info about the current situation on their website. kpssinfo.org/[/quote]
Great link, thanks Empressaurus Smile

BettyFilous · 08/02/2022 20:18

@CorrBlimeyGG

Aren't you going to the protest against the cost of living crisis, asking the government to urgently tackle inequality? That affects hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, mostly women. Starts at midday at Parliament Square, with solidarity protests across the country.
No. That would be a cost of living protest. It’s obviously something you feel strongly about. Feel free to organise your own protest.
MrsTerryPratchett · 08/02/2022 20:18

@CorrBlimeyGG

Aren't you going to the protest against the cost of living crisis, asking the government to urgently tackle inequality? That affects hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, mostly women. Starts at midday at Parliament Square, with solidarity protests across the country.
Could you explain what this has to do with the price of fish?

I've gone to lots of marches and protests. Only ever been asked 'what about' when it's a women's issue. You can care about variously criminal justice, poll tax, equal marriage, South Africa and animals rights all at the same time (and I did) but woe betide you if you try to care about a woman's issue. Then you should have to do this thing x first. For some reason.

ScreamingMeMe · 08/02/2022 20:03

@CorrBlimeyGG

Aren't you going to the protest against the cost of living crisis, asking the government to urgently tackle inequality? That affects hundreds of thousands of vulnerable people, mostly women. Starts at midday at Parliament Square, with solidarity protests across the country.
Are you? Let us know how it goes!
RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 08/02/2022 20:01

@SwissBall

I think you should also ask your husbands’ views on this topic too, because they might think it’s a silly thing to protest about and don’t forget you’d have to be back to make the dinner.
What excellent advice.

Seems like a good time to post this old favourite again - seeing as some people don’t seem to have got the memo that it’s satire, otherwise known as A Joke; and apparently think it’s a useful guide for life:

Helleofabore · 08/02/2022 19:56

I think you should also ask your husbands’ views on this topic too, because they might think it’s a silly thing to protest about and don’t forget you’d have to be back to make the dinner.

Great idea!

Will also ask him if I am allowed to be concerned about multiple issues at once, if he will give me some money to sow some carrots, and what my opinion should be on females being imprisoned with males.

Have I missed anything? You know my womanly brain can't hold many thoughts at once.

tabletopgreen · 08/02/2022 19:55

The policing is strong on this one.

What a strange way to live.

OvaHere · 08/02/2022 19:49

@MsGoodenough

Ooh I might be able to go to this. (I also care about the cost of living. Amazing that my lady brain can care about more than one thing at once).
Don't worry. There's at least two other posters on this thread going to the inequality one so they can represent FWR on our behalf.

I'll look forward to their reports and photos of the event. That way we can support both protests. Smile

SwissBall · 08/02/2022 19:39

I think you should also ask your husbands’ views on this topic too, because they might think it’s a silly thing to protest about and don’t forget you’d have to be back to make the dinner.

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 08/02/2022 19:37

Keep Prisons Single Sex aren’t organising this protest, but there is a lot of useful info about the current situation on their website. kpssinfo.org/

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MsGoodenough · 08/02/2022 19:37

Ooh I might be able to go to this. (I also care about the cost of living. Amazing that my lady brain can care about more than one thing at once).