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The Brits

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IsabelleSE19 · 08/02/2022 08:15

Brief discussion on 5 Live just now between Clive Myrie and Colin Patterson about the effect of the Brits having a gender neutral Artist of the Year award to be inclusive to NB. Although they obviously stayed on the fence ('hot potato' 'complex') the point was raised that it could be seen as a step backwards for representation for women. Myrie also highlighted the reason why there is a female category in this and many other awards shortlists. Patterson thought that the issue would be raised a lot in red carpet interviews so could be worth looking out for later.

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Beamur · 08/02/2022 23:09

Yay Adele. Proud to be a woman!

StrawberryLollipops · 08/02/2022 23:02

@Linguini

Ah Adele here's a link from a decade ago highly recommend

She's simply incredible.

Amazing!
Linguini · 08/02/2022 22:51

Ah Adele here's a link from a decade ago highly recommend

She's simply incredible.

JazzyBBG · 08/02/2022 22:46

Twitter being quite positive so far. The TRA's must be asleep.

TRANSLENDER · 08/02/2022 22:45

And hear those cheers when she said it. I don’t think Mr Smith will be too happy with that will he.

TRANSLENDER · 08/02/2022 22:42

Thanks for putting the clip on, I hadn’t seen it. Well done Adele. 👏

WeeTorag · 08/02/2022 22:16

Love Adele. Good on her, these words are so important and must never be lost.

Here's the clip...

twitter.com/tvmourn/status/1491168547477016576?s=21

MissLucyEyelesbarrow · 08/02/2022 22:14

Well done, Adele. Not a fan of her music, but I’ve always admired her strength as an artist and business woman.

WinterTrees · 08/02/2022 22:09

Very interesting move by Adele. I'd say she's pretty much the JKR of the music industry, and uncancellable. We'll see how this plays out, but brava to her for going there.

autienotnaughty · 08/02/2022 22:04

I am all for inclusivity but can't help but feel taking away the female awards will just mean less women win awards/recognition. Surely if it's been recognised the need for gender neutral categories these could have been in addition to the male/female awards .

Doyoumind · 08/02/2022 22:00

@Appalonia

Ha ha, Adele accepting her award for Artist of the Year just said, I love being a female artist! Is she a TERF??
Definitely making a statement. She's pretty untouchable so it will be interesting to see the response. My guess is no big deal will be made of it.
OverByYer · 08/02/2022 21:58

I cheered when she said that! fantastic.

TRANSLENDER · 08/02/2022 21:57

That it was purposefully done I mean.

TRANSLENDER · 08/02/2022 21:57

Ha ha, Adele accepting her award for Artist of the Year just said, I love being a female artist!

Oh, I so hope she’s aware of the importance of that comment.

Appalonia · 08/02/2022 21:55

Ha ha, Adele accepting her award for Artist of the Year just said, I love being a female artist! Is she a TERF??

TRANSLENDER · 08/02/2022 21:47

Sam fucking Smith. 😡

I heard Ed Sheeran refer to him as ‘they’ in an interview a while ago. I love Ed and it makes me sad to hear people having to change their language like this. He knows Sam is a man. As someone else said, people can not speak up. The category change is just 💩.

I’m so fed up of attention seekers ruining things for women.

IcakethereforeIam · 08/02/2022 21:47

Maybe they id as hexadecimal, I vaguely remember that, was that the one with base 8 or 16.

MrsJamin · 08/02/2022 21:39

That's just what I was saying @DevonTF

DevonTF · 08/02/2022 21:29

Little Mix won the best group last year - that was the first time ever an all female group won. The only other females honoured in the Best Group were 5 star in 1987 both sexes.
This year we will see a mix of male and female winners. They will do the - ‘it was so fair and inclusive blah blah blah’. Then it will be men winning again with the odd female win. Same shit that we fought, back fighting again.

Oh - and Sam Smith is shite.

MrsJamin · 08/02/2022 21:05

Best group, wolf Alice. Best dance, becky Hill. Let's see if this continues in the next few years, eh, brits?

MrsJamin · 08/02/2022 20:31

Best song goes to Adele and best international artist goes to Olivia Rodriguez, we called it. Best pop / rnb dua Lipa. So predictable.

InvisibleDragon · 08/02/2022 18:15

mentioned not mental!

InvisibleDragon · 08/02/2022 18:04

The presenter on BBC Radio Scotland called this "controversial" and mental that the Brits have been criticized for not having many female nominees, which this won't help with.

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 08/02/2022 17:48

So what, exactly, is 'non-binary' reflective of?

Somebody who does not embrace the opportunity to reject the stifling constrictions of gender and be wholly themselves and expand the bandwidth of what it means to be their sex?

Somebody who accepts gender stereotypes and confuses that with sex classes and refuses the latter rather than the former (see above)?

Hasselhoffsheadband · 08/02/2022 17:07

“reflective of the society we live in.”

If you watch any of those 80s themed music video shows, tonnes of the videos feature blokes in heavy makeup, long hair, frills, heels all sorts. They were all men.

So what, exactly, is 'non-binary' reflective of?