Sarah Ditum reviews Grace Lavery’s book

Wait, is there a list of websites people are not supposed to visit? Or is it just female people who must not visit certain websites? Is visiting a website 'hanging out' there, and why is it wrong? Does one only visit websites one completely agrees with, because I have accidentally clicked on the Guardian a few times, how do I make reparation pls?

They are not very good are they? It’s straw manning for beginners.

Oh just give it up. What sort of people are embedded in the TRA movement? Plenty of paedophiles, paedophile apologists, rapists, rape apologists, women haters, would be women killers if they acted out what they post. All on Reddit, Twitter, Youtube et al, merrily typing and trolling away. Are you staying away from there? Are you sure you want to post here? Aren't you a bit scared of being radicalised?

Hang on, aren't we far right? I thought we were far right. Please tell me we're far right. Having an identity crisis.

There's a big difference between checking different sites for factual links and corroborated evidence and 'hanging out on a far-right site.'

Journalists at the Guardian have often mentioned doing research on the site that you are getting all cross about Seven, perhaps you should complain to Owen Jones about it?

I think someone doesn't want us to google websites that might have info about certain individuals' pasts.

Do you read Mumsnet FWR because you agree with it, then, Seven?

Here on this thread we have multiple gender critical feminists on Mumsnet admitting they also hang out on a far right troll site which openly celebrates having driven at least three individuals to suicide. This peels back a mask on the kind of people who are embedded in the GC movement, and the kind of behaviour they find acceptable, and may even participate in.

And then, @SevenWaystoLeave, there's the respectable doyens of the TRA movement, who want to, inter alia, punch a terf, for women to die in grease fires, for women to suck on their lady cocks, and for women to generally enjoy their erasure? I'm sure they'd know all there is to know about bullying and harassment. You didn't come back to the Rachel Johnson thread. Started any new and interesting threads about important women's issues in Feminist Chat yet? Or are you just here to bully and harass us out of speaking freely again?

How interesting to discover multiple people here are apparently regular visitors to a forum whose explicitly stated purpose in life is to bully and harass individuals to suicide.

Yeah, Incel run Twitter, Reddit and Youtube is full of the worst kind of people, isn't it.

Anyone who uses disgusting and offensive similes about miscarriage (particularly when they refer to their own miscarriage when they can never or could never experience the horror) does not deserve defending

Yes I know Lavery intends to shock but as a woman who experienced a loss at 14 weeks, I am furious, not shocked.

How dare Lavery exploit women's pain for shock value. Odious human being.

I hope Berkeley parents pull their children out in droves.

[quote Scraggythang]@Clymene I’ll be relying on them for commentary on the inevitable breakdown.[/quote]
How interesting to discover multiple people here are apparently regular visitors to a forum whose explicitly stated purpose in life is to bully and harass individuals to suicide.

Clymene The details about the spouse are very alarming.
I remember reading her - she still identified as a woman then - "women in art history" posts at the Toast. Often commenting on male creepiness like this:
the-toast.net/2015/02/10/women-inexpertly-groped-western-art-history/
the-toast.net/2016/03/28/oh-no-my-thing-is-happening-women-leaving-tactfully-in-western-art-history/

@Doubletoilandtrouble so sorry for your losses and pain too, I can't imagine what it is like to go through it more than once.

Thanks to all the women who understand, even if you haven't been through it. What I can't get my head around is women who defend the likes of Lavery, especially when they come out with this sort of woman hating shit, which frankly is not unusual for this movement. Seriously, what's in it for them to side with a person like this? Why give them that power and authority over you?

Double and Lilith -

Thanks for the share token SpiderVersed, that's one hell of a review!

@Clymene I’ll be relying on them for commentary on the inevitable breakdown.

Crikey, @Clymene.

Crikey.

@Helleofabore I have a feeling Lavery will weasel out of that debate.

Hahahaaaaa! Oh, how I’ve waited to read reviews of this. Sadly I’m not on Twitter anymore to watch the fall out in real time.

Oooh! That was quite a read!

I could have had so much empathy for a male who didn't fit in at a posh boys school

Privileged white male finds a way to justify sadistic misogyny.