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Natasha Devon on LBC suggesting we are ‘terf island’ ***title amended by MNHQ***

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Gosports · 06/02/2022 20:25

Don’t have time to listen, but a heads up for anyone who can.

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IncompleteSenten · 08/02/2022 00:34

@LovedayCL

Can you get to Terf Island from Kings Cross Platform 9 and 3/4?
Can we tell the terf haters that it's platform 10 3/4 so they run headlong into a wall and knock some sense into their heads?
EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 07/02/2022 22:00

Sounds like the obvious route!

LovedayCL · 07/02/2022 21:44

Can you get to Terf Island from Kings Cross Platform 9 and 3/4?

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 07/02/2022 21:43

She does fabulous veggie options.

Blessex · 07/02/2022 21:38

No ladies. We need a Witches Brew cocktail.

Sugar and Spice and All Things Nice

LilithOfEden · 07/02/2022 21:31

Is meat and two veg on the menu?

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Deliriumoftheendless · 07/02/2022 21:27

Is meat and two veg on the menu?

LilithOfEden · 07/02/2022 21:22

Add Truth Serum to the cocktail menu. And Witchcraft.

Pie you say? Does she do a nice veggie option?

EmpressaurusWitchDoesntBurn · 07/02/2022 20:56

I’ve mentioned this on another thread, but we need to get the landlady of the Harlequin in Sheffield to run the pub because her pies are bloody amazing.

OhHolyJesus · 07/02/2022 20:51

If we're on the topic of naming cocktails, surely Truth Serum should be in the menu?

LilithOfEden · 07/02/2022 20:49

‘The Surf and Terf’

Grin Love that name!

Cor, haven't had a snakebite in 30 years! I think there's also cocktails called Snake in the Grass and Medusa to add to the menu.

BettyFilous · 07/02/2022 19:50

I hope the pub sells snakebite for the vipers.

LovedayCL · 07/02/2022 19:44

@LilithOfEden

Terf Island needs a good pub. And maybe its own cocktail. Terf Island Ice Tea! Gin Wine
We’re on an island so can we call the pub ‘The Surf and Terf’
TheWeeDonkey · 07/02/2022 18:50

LGBTQI is as helpful to people who are not heterosexual as BAME is to people who are not white. Neither of them make sense to me and I refuse to engage with it.

LilithOfEden · 07/02/2022 18:42

Terf Island needs a good pub. And maybe its own cocktail. Terf Island Ice Tea! Gin Wine

IncompleteSenten · 07/02/2022 15:31

As far as men are concerned, not prioritising them is the same as hating them. They are so used to being put first that they are anything from confused to outraged if this doesn't happen. You see it in all interactions with them. Even something as simple as walking down the street. Women are expected to be the ones to step aside. Women have actually tested this and the results were pretty clear. The men barging in to them, or the women being verbally abused or the man looking furious or incredulous that the woman isn't making way.

A man who decides he is a woman has still had male socialisation and I see no reason to believe that transwomen don't have the same view of women as others who have been socialised to have male entitlement.

ScrollingLeaves · 07/02/2022 15:23

@RoyalCorgi
I agree.

RoyalCorgi · 07/02/2022 14:30

There are not many things about living in this country that make me proud, but the moniker Terf Island is one of them. The fact that women in this country are intelligent, courageous and organisationally savvy enough to have fought back against the new breed of men's rights activists is a constant source of pride and delight to me. Good for us.

KittyLeMew · 07/02/2022 13:39

I actually fantasise about moving to a literal Terf island so YAY frankly.

For someone like Devon, who was once a ‘child’s mental health tsar’ and focused around the impact of low self esteem and poor body image in girls to criticise women who seek to protect vulnerable children, especially girls, from mistakenly transitioning, is hugely perplexing. Do they just not read around at all? Even out of idle curiosity?

As far as I’m concerned there isn’t a single key feminist issue that trans activism doesn’t impact. They even harass campaigners against female genital mutilation (including tweeting racist abuse at them) simply for using the word female. Feminists who can’t see this are deluded.

SamphiretheStickerist · 07/02/2022 12:46

Sorry @DomesticatedZombie I read that the wrong way...

I noticed today that the post about dolls was moved from S&G into 'chat' Irritating isn't it? Like we are kids, to be corrected!

mammajustkilledagnat · 07/02/2022 12:34

Ah, I see you all beat me to it. Vive La FWR Sex & gender discussions!

mammajustkilledagnat · 07/02/2022 12:32

Is she wrong? These very forums had to be split because GC "feminists" were overwhelming the board with trans talk to the virtual exclusion of any other topic.

Yes, and look which board is thriving since the split. It was a strategic move by Mumsnet to shut up the whiners.

DomesticatedZombie · 07/02/2022 12:30

@SamphiretheStickerist

I just don't post there, largely because several posters told me I wasn't welcome to do so, being the wrong sort of feminist... For me, all feminism is 'sex and gender'.

Well that last bit might explain the first part.

I am not happy if threads are being moved purely to make the other board look busy. Nobody here will argue with your being unhappy that threads are moved. But FWR and the awfully renamed Sex and Gender board are quite busy without any additional threads being moved in. It's FWR Chat that is quiet!

It's FWR Chat that is quiet!

Yes, that's why I'm confused - are people asking for threads to be moved from S&G into Feminist chat? I have a terrible memory and it's not inconceivable I posted in 'chat' accidentally, which is why I've not asked MN. But I'd be pissed off if someone has decided my post should be shunted off into Chat when I wanted it here. And I noticed today that the post about dolls was moved from S&G into 'chat'.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/02/2022 12:19

@Gumbomambo

I read the replies on the Twitter post. Young people that look exactly like the sex they were born but with pronouns in their names, saying in all seriousness, they want to move because they are too afraid to walk down the street in case they are murdered. Murdered by GC feminists no less. I can’t even be bothered to point out the absolute nonsense of this. I can’t be bothered to point out the core beliefs of any feminist. if you are so stupid you believe you are more likely to be murdered (for being a bloke dressed as a bloke) on the streets of Loughborough than you are in the Sudan then I can’t help you.
This.

These people take middle class self obsessed privilege to a new level.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 07/02/2022 12:13

@Letterasaurus

What, like it's a bad thing? Grin
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