Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

Is this what you have in mind bb?

No I had in mind death and rape threats because that's what was alleged.

Why would you try to separate the sheer volume of rape and death threats' issued to women fighting for upholding their rights and boundaries in the UK into 'prominent' vs non-prominent?

Because there is a difference between a prominent trans campaigner and an anonymous troll that could be literally anyone including far right agitators seeking to pour petrol on this debate.

Someone who'd been posting Posie Parker's stuff was convicted not that long ago for trying to burn down their neighbours house because they were a trans women but I'm not laying that at the gender critical door.

Or is it the extreme outpouring of racist and misogynistic abuse aimed at people attending a Woman's Place event about vulnerable women in prison where a Black business meeting, venue staff and their stewards were all repeatedly grossly abused? I believe the SWP were implicated in the dreadful scenes:

womansplaceuk.org/2021/10/30/open-letter-swp-abusive-protest/

Is this what you have in mind bb? There's more.....

Regarding Edinburgh Rape Crisis, they could easily have sessions when it was women only and reserve occasional sessions for men and sessions for trans identifying people. It's hardly rocket science. The very fact that they are not doing this is proof that it's all political point scoring and the actual abused and raped women can just sod off if they don't like it. It's an absolute disgrace.

Well there's good old Steph who organised a protest outside the Filia feminist conference where women protestors were greeted with transactivist protesters chanting “Trans women are women”, “Blow jobs are real jobs” and “No TERFs in Pompey Turf.” They held signs that read “Suck my dick, you transphobic cunts” and wrote with chalk “Transphobes can suck on my pink strap” on the Guildhall entrance:

www.filia.org.uk/latest-news/2021/10/26/filia-statement-on-amnesty-international-uk

Is that what you mean barely?

Okay let's. Please point out one prominent trans activist in the UK who has issued a credible rape or death threat (as opposed to anonymous twitter trolls).

Why have you moved the goal posts to 'prominent' only?

Why would you try to separate the sheer volume of rape and death threats' issued to women fighting for upholding their rights and boundaries in the UK into 'prominent' vs non-prominent?

And please do tell us what the trans lobby groups are doing to fight this sheer volume of rape and death threats towards women who disagree that males can be women?

No one with the slightest bit of empathy would think it reasonable @scalliondays

I'm a woman in Edinburgh. Should I be unlucky enough to be raped I would absolutely want to be able to access female only services. Why should I not be able to have this? Is it because it would invalidate the feelings of the CEO? How can anyone think this is reasonable?

But in their dissemination of the events that are relevant to today in the UK? Which is what we are discussing?

I am not sure you are on a compelling argument.

That last sentence should have read 'is severe injuries acceptable to you? Possibility of death?'

[quote barleybadminton]@Waitwhat23

That is an unpleasant and aggresive comment but it is not a death or rape threat.[/quote]
I'd be interested to know what you think the outcome of a male their twenties carrying out the threat of 'Let’s f*king have at it, you c*t!' towards a female in her 50's? Is severe injuries acceptable?

It is astonishing, barley, how much effort you are willing to put into fighting women's right to single sex services.

@Waitwhat23

That is an unpleasant and aggresive comment but it is not a death or rape threat.

A rape crisis service set up by women and for women now has to 'justify a need' for women to access rape crisis services?

Incidentally, NIA appears to be based solely in London. Not particularly helpful for women based in Edinburgh and the Lothians, wouldn't you agree?

I doubt many people would feel comfortable posting “the allegations have been denied by the accused but taking the accuser at their word..” on any other thread about sexual assault.

Quoted from - www.womenarehuman.com/influential-women-terrorized-with-death-threats-by-trans-extremists/

They are only important to you barely.

I think you'll find Angela Davies, Catherine Mckinnon and Gloria Steinman are important to more people than just me lol.

Bev Jo accused Elliot of sexual harassment many years previously not assault, and for the record Elliot strenuously denied it. But taking her at her word are you really claiming that is a justification for wishing death on every trans woman

So this just casts doubt on allegations of sexual hate as mentioned (or assault) which is against MN codes is it not?

Did we not cover this when another MRA was casting doubt on similar accusations?

So.... no UK second wave feminists horrified at what is being pursued in their name then?

[quote Waitwhat23]@barleybadminton do you agree with their decision to exclude these woman?[/quote]
I would support a project being funded to do so if a need could be demonstrated. I support a range of provision and a properly funded VAWG sector. As I've said several times I have no problems with the existence of NIA. But Edinburgh Rape Crisis practice a trans inclusive approach and that is their right as an indepednet organisation.

And that's before we even begin to look at the rights of women in the US, which is a whole other OCEAN of fish.

On the subject of US/UK feminists - the US has an utterly different legal and cultural landscape than the UK. It's pointless to try and transpose theory or ideas from one to the other.

There is no 'Equality Act' protecting the rights of trans people in the US.

Because the US has had a very different history to trans rights than the UK. As you know. This discussion has been had with you before.

No it hasn't, but I'm aware how flaky your relationship with the truth is.

And just because the US has a different history I fail to see why that makes the views of some of the most important contributors to feminism in the world irrelevent.