Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

Those are fantastic socks. We will be accused of being sock puppets next!

But I'm prepared to concede that perhaps this is a generational and cultural thing.

Yes, this is a British forum. Well done.

As for the "generational", pshaw. Women of all ages are saying no here.

Stick a sock in it.

But it is not intended as a threat by those who use it, although perhaps it is understandable it may be perceived that way by someone from a different culture or generation.

This is presumably a very tiresome allusion to the misconception held by anti woman posters that the posters on here are all white, middle class, straight, middle aged women.

Of course it's meant as a threat. You can use illustrations from rap music as much as you like but the phrase 'suck my dick' or to use the much more commonly seen 'suck my dick, you transphobic cunt' is a violent sexual threat, particularly when used by someone who is protesting against women having sex based rights.

Barley you are a twat

But I'm prepared to concede that perhaps this is a generational and cultural thing. It's a phrase used all the time in hip hop and in popular culture. No-one using it means it literally, it is not a serious demand, it just means fuck off. I do think it's probably rooted in both misogyny and homophobia in that it is presumed sucking a dick is unpleasant and something no-one would would want to do - much like eat shit which is often used in the same way. But it is not intended as a threat by those who use it, although perhaps it is understandable it may be perceived that way by someone from a different culture or generation.

Still at least the discussion got the boards moving eh. It's so sluggish round here these days. Almost felt like the glory days for a while then when you could barely keep up with new threads let alone new posts.

Ddraig

Have they listened to the women who've been in prison, on prisoner welfare?

Would be nice if they listened to the women on occasion.

Of course FPFW and the LGBA met with the EHRC recently. That didn't go down well with the TRAs though, did it? Apparently women and gay men meeting with public bodies to defend their rights is outrageous but inviting a male with convictions for a series of violent offences is quite routine.

a lot of the time people are not who they say they are online

@barleybadminton are you trying to say that you aren't actually a TRA, and are instead a GC fifth columnist who has infiltrated TRA ranks in order to destabilise their position?

Well done, you had us completely fooled!

You know ,the ones who don't do horrifying things. Unless you consider "living while being female" to be an affront.

again, not a threat, just something her went ahead and did, but how about Kellie Maloney, who strangled his ex wife? I mean she didn't die or anything, so I expect his ex wife was making a fuss about nothing

next lot of kids don't say it either

Oh really? This is not true in my experience. My teen uses it. Their friends use it. I have heard it in use at my teen's school recently.

They are obviously down with the cool kids sausage.

The kids stopped saying lol so long ago they are no longer kids and the next lot of kids don't say it either. I've used it once in this thread I think, to denote I thought something was laughable.

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

The kind of mind that allies with a predator and condemns the predator's victim for not reacting with forgiveness, perhaps?

The kind of mind that disbelieves victims of sexual harassment and assault?

The kind of mind that constantly minimises the impact of threats of sexual violence?
The kind of mind that cannot

Good summary, Crumpet.

At the moment, what I think we’re doing is a live demonstration how womens realities are dismissed out of hand.

barley is stuck to a narrative, and will never back down, and Mridul is deluded and needs to attack anything that threatens the delusion... And that's really it. Question is, what do we do about it?!

Stuff these in your modem.

No woman thinks that suck my dick cunt is not a threat of sexual violence. of course it is. What else is it?

I'm not at all surprised Barley doesn't realise that, though.

Again barley, words do have meaning. And every word in that phrase means something.

suck my dick you transphobic cunt.

It is an order, it is threatening. But do, please, keep on going. You are a live demonstration every time you post.

Keep on telling women what and what we should not consider a threat.

You don't think that the phrase 'suck my dick' is a threat. Even when it's directed at a woman by someone who is very open about how much they hate women, GC views and women talking about women's rights?

Give over, you can't possibly be that disengenous. You're making yourself ridiculous.

It is quite remarkable to think about it. Someone so heavily invested in telling women to STFU in so many ways on so many posts, is now telling women what is and what is NOT a credible rape threat. Because 'they' judge that it is not.

I constantly hear people in the gender critical movement saying words have meaning and those meanings matter. I think those banners were misogynist and I condemn them however it is not a rape or death threat - both of which would be serious criminal offences incidentally. It's a profanity, much like swivel on it, kiss my arse or eat shit - unpleasant and abusive in this context yes, but not a threat.

Thank you, barley.

I mean it.

Thank you for relentlessly time and again driving this thread away from the point with nit picking on minor points, deviations, baseless accusations and flights of fantasy into guilt by association.

Thank you for not answering the real questions, for not addressing the substantive issues, for not grasping womens realities.

Thank you for bumping the thread repeatedly and giving women the opportunity to demonstrate why we do what we do, why we continue to highlight injustices to our sex such as the appointment of Mridul Wadwha and what it means to our right and desire for single sex environments.

Thank you. You are achieving more than you know.