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Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

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IamSarah · 03/02/2022 17:58

Great article in Spiked Online about Mridul Wadwha's latest shenanigans:

www.spiked-online.com/2022/02/01/the-thought-police-are-here/

To briefly summarise:

  • Mridul was born male
  • Mridul is legally male with no GRC
  • Mridul is the CEO of Edinburgh Rape crisis
  • Mridul claims women who want female only rape crisis services are bigoted and should 'reframe their trauma'
  • The CEO of a domestic violence charity Nicola Murray stopped referring women to Mridul's rape crisis service due to Mridul's misogyny
  • Mridul reported Nicola Murray to the police for committing a hate crime
  • The police actually visited Nicola Murray to question her thinking
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barleybadminton · 05/02/2022 17:32

@Rhannion

Oh barley you really are off the charts now.
Why, Kali is thought of as the Mother Goddess, there's nothing unusual about the way Mridul refers to her in a Hindu context, she is probably the most revered deity and many people have statues of her in their homes.
Rhannion · 05/02/2022 17:26

You will be accusing us of being bots next ...

Rhannion · 05/02/2022 17:25

Oh barley you really are off the charts now.

Rhannion · 05/02/2022 17:24

@Helleofabore

I find it always interesting who defends MW. This is a person who seems to have no issue progressing their own agenda to the detriment of females.

I cannot imagine a person being so incensed because a law was passed that allowed females to ask for female medical examiners and expect a female medical examiner. And that law had an amendment that meant a transitioned male would not be acceptable.

Once you realise this is the ceo of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, and all the other things Wadhwa has done and said and tweeted, it must take some strength of devotion to trans activism to continue to support them. And to attempt to put any positive spin on their actions.

MW had a hissy fit and dumped the SNP, & joined the Greens over that issue, which is appropriate as The Greens are absolute misogynists now. Thank goodness for Jo Cherry and the others who stood up for other women that day. It would have been an absolutely tragedy if MW & their ilk had prevailed.
barleybadminton · 05/02/2022 17:21

[quote IamSarah]@PurgatoryOfPotholes wait, what? MW actually compared themselves to the Hindu Goddess Kali? The Hindu goddess associated with death, violence and sexuality? The Hindu goddess often depicted holding a bloody knife?

Mridul has got to be trolling us.
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Or perhaps you don't understand the relationship many Hindus have with Kali. Would you attack a Christian or Jew for discussing their religion?

Am starting to wonder if there's more than just 'genuine concerns' underlying these attacks.

BernardBlackMissesLangCleg · 05/02/2022 17:20

I started typing out a reply to the poster above, but stopped

they talk such utter mince that I can't even be bothered engaging

barleybadminton · 05/02/2022 17:16

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

are we allowed to say yet that it's incredibly fucking creepy for a man to move heaven and earth to have a career which gives him power over vulnerable and traumatised women?
There are plenty of male identified men who work in VAWG services, why aren't you attacking them?
IamSarah · 05/02/2022 16:08

DomesticatedZombie That Twitter thread is excellent. Thanks for sharing.

Helleofabore I can tell you who defends MW - the rape crisis service in Brighton. Survivors Network.

It's hard to understand the motivation for this. It's especially hard when Mridul is so obviously trolling women and getting a kick from it.

survivorsnetwork.org.uk/solidarity-better-sector/

'We want to extend our solidarity specifically to Mridul Wadhwa and the team at Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre who are doing extraordinary work supporting survivors while also facing transphobic abuse.'

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Helleofabore · 05/02/2022 16:01

I find it always interesting who defends MW. This is a person who seems to have no issue progressing their own agenda to the detriment of females.

I cannot imagine a person being so incensed because a law was passed that allowed females to ask for female medical examiners and expect a female medical examiner. And that law had an amendment that meant a transitioned male would not be acceptable.

Once you realise this is the ceo of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre, and all the other things Wadhwa has done and said and tweeted, it must take some strength of devotion to trans activism to continue to support them. And to attempt to put any positive spin on their actions.

DomesticatedZombie · 05/02/2022 15:33

Here are the tweets.

Mridul Wadwha and the thought police
Mridul Wadwha and the thought police
DomesticatedZombie · 05/02/2022 15:28

Posted that picture on Twitter, I believe, with something about enemies.

DomesticatedZombie · 05/02/2022 15:27

Yes, Mridul did.

IamSarah · 05/02/2022 14:56

@PurgatoryOfPotholes wait, what? MW actually compared themselves to the Hindu Goddess Kali? The Hindu goddess associated with death, violence and sexuality? The Hindu goddess often depicted holding a bloody knife?

Mridul has got to be trolling us.

Mridul Wadwha and the thought police
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IamSarah · 05/02/2022 14:43

The sad thing is Mridul could have pioneered specialist sexual violence recovery services for trans survivors.

If Mridul was as passionate about helping trans survivors as Mridul was about forcing themselves upon vulnerable women then Mridul could have made a real, progressive change to sexual violence services.

Mridul could have been a bloody hero.

Instead Mridul chose to alienate hundreds, perhaps thousands of female rape survivors.

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PurgatoryOfPotholes · 05/02/2022 14:40

This is a section of a transcript of a feminist podcast that had MW on as a guest in August 2021.

You can read the full thing at www.forwomen.scot/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Mridul-Wadhwa-Guilty-Feminist-transcript.pdf

MW: Well, as you're building bridges, maybe I should put away the Goddess Kali that seems to
have emerged as I'm speaking to you. Trust me. One of my favourite pictures if you Google Goddess Kali, the first Wikipedia picture, that's often me. I think it's important that there's a group of women that I'm really interested in, who are affected by this debate. And I say debate very generously because I don't believe it is. Debate is when there's equality of voices and respect. But this is about who has power and who doesn't.

But there are a group of survivors who will be watching and seeing what is being played out about spaces that they're potentially going to use. And be informed or misinformed about what actually happens here and be, possibly be fearful. And I think if you're worried about
these things, about inclusion and what trans inclusion means within women's organisations, and if your local women's organisation or Rape Crisis Centre or Women’s Aid is openly trans inclusive, and you just don't understand, reach out to them and ask those questions. I think it's important to know that we see you as an individual. And we come as survivors with experiences that often feel to the outside world as holding prejudice. So we might have fear of men of a certain ethnicity, we might have fear of trans people, and it could be linked to an experience of trauma. I think it is, it is okay to hold those things as long as you are willing to acknowledge that, in support, we will accept that.

But there is a difference also when, and I am not sure if I said this as clearly and transparently as I want to, but I’m trying. Apologies, if I haven't done it well. But I think the other thing is that sexual violence happens to bigoted people as well. And so, you know, it is not discerning crime. But these spaces are also for you. But if you bring unacceptable beliefs that are discriminatory in nature, we will begin to work with you on your journey of recovery from trauma. But please also expect to be challenged on your prejudices, because how can you heal from trauma and build a new relationship with your trauma, because you can’t forget, and you can’t go back to life before traumatic incident or traumatic incidents. And some of us never, ever had a life before traumatic incidents. But if you have to reframe your trauma, I think it is important as part of that reframing, having a more positive relationship with it, where it becomes a story that empowers you and allows you to go and do other more beautiful things with your life, you also have to rethink your relationship with prejudice. Otherwise, you can’t really, in my view, recover from trauma and I think that’s a very important message that I am often discussing with my colleagues that in various places. Because you know, to me, therapy is political, and it isn’t always seen as that.

Rhannion · 05/02/2022 14:36

That’s the interview thank you for finding it.

Rhannion · 05/02/2022 14:35

@N0Name

Wasn’t MWs main experience in telephone counselling where MW revealed MW revelled in the power of being able to grant or deny food charity? I am sure I read this on a previous thread about MW….

Also remember reading that individuals who had undergone counselling with MW were not in the least complimentary of MWs therapeutic relationship or advice….

Does anyone remember similar?

Yes I remember those comments. That piece of work is on a Power trip and anyone who enables it should be ashamed.
Justme56 · 05/02/2022 14:13

FPFW put in a complaint to the equality watchdog regarding comments made by Police Scotland in the Times article. I wonder if this has anything to do with the pulling of this and other articles with the same comments. Not sure if this was highlighted on the original Nicola thread.

Helleofabore · 05/02/2022 13:38

Could not find it. Dah

Helleofabore · 05/02/2022 13:36

Thanks for finding that purgatory, I was out and about and could find it.

N0Name · 05/02/2022 13:27

Yes - thank you @PurgatoryOfPotholes.

PurgatoryOfPotholes · 05/02/2022 13:08

@N0Name

Wasn’t MWs main experience in telephone counselling where MW revealed MW revelled in the power of being able to grant or deny food charity? I am sure I read this on a previous thread about MW….

Also remember reading that individuals who had undergone counselling with MW were not in the least complimentary of MWs therapeutic relationship or advice….

Does anyone remember similar?

You may be thinking of this.

Transcript of MW on a podcast, previously compiled by @helleofabore

"It was the first time I experienced power. It was a call centre job where we were the customer service for the benefit card that was being rolled out in the United States, in certain States. Where people who were receiving food stamps and cash benefits from the local state governments were now receiving it on an electronic card."

So they were transitioning from whatever system was there before to the electronic card. And I was responsible for whatever the person had phoned me about, you know I could do whatever they asked me to and I experienced this complete powerfulness. This idea that I was in charge and it wasn't me, it was Louise who was in charge. And this is how I discovered Louise."

When I was shocked with fear about anything, I would call on Louise. And Louise could do whatever. So, in my most difficult moments I spoke as Louise. And Louise (the western woman's name they chose to convince Americans' they were also American') could do whatever. She could do anything. In my most difficult moments, I spoke as Louise. And Louise had a very Southern drawl. I have lost it. But I was very good at it."

It was so racist as well, because most of my colleagues sounded Indian, no matter how hard they tried and whenever I came on the phone you could hear, um, (indistinguishable) who would say 'finally a white American'."

www.buzzsprout.com%2F1219151%2F4569950-provokecast-episode-1-mridul-wadhwa

DoubleYouOhEmAyEn · 05/02/2022 13:02

I find it creepy for any man to be trying to gain access to female only spaces. It's an absolutely clear demonstration of why they shouldn't be allowed in. They can't accept being told no.

IamSarah · 05/02/2022 12:25

are we allowed to say yet that it's incredibly fucking creepy for a man to move heaven and earth to have a career which gives him power over vulnerable and traumatised women?

Mridul would probably class saying it as a hate crime but yes, incredibly fucking creepy.

We need to keep on saying it, the more of us that speak up the better.

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