Mridul Wadwha and the thought police

But she worked in the sector for nearly 15 years without anyone even knowing she was trans so that suggests she is more motivated by supporting survivors of sexual violence than cheer-leading for trans rights.

Er! I doubt ‘everyone’ believed this person was female. And we have people who did indeed ‘know’ the truth. ‘ But she worked in the sector for nearly 15 years without anyone even knowing she was trans ‘ is yet another false statement.

suggests she is more motivated by supporting survivors of sexual violence than cheer-leading for trans rights.

Listening to their recollection of their time as ‘Louise’, plus the statement on MN from a person who actually was counseled by this person who told us they spent a large portion of the time on their phone and not actually paying attention to the woman they were counselling, I would suggest you are wrong.

I mean, yes, some (maybe much) of their time previously was spent in ‘training’ and ‘managing’ roles too. But if your early life revolves around the power you feel over women you are supposed to be helping, I’d suggest this doesn’t change.‘Louise’ is very central to this person’s character.

Perhaps if we all repeat it until it is answered?

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

It's the next level of the "talk about women's rights without mentioning the word 'woman'" game. You're allowed to talk politics as long as you don't use any of the vocabulary you require. Mime is also not permitted.

Maybe we could try interpretative dance? Or is that verboten too?

So, what now? Mridul's partner is part of Sarco? Who get funding from the government to run refuges in Lanarkshire, as long as they accept male people? Which is why the single sex refuges in Lanarkshire shut down.

Gosh.

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/mridrul-wadha-sacro-and-the-14-million

another Glosswitch thread

How should women talk about competing rights, female bodies, legitimate concerns, male violence etc. now that all of these phrases are deemed "dogwhistles" for whatever personal prejudices 'progressive' men are busy priding themselves on swallowing down?

They'd listen to us, obviously, if we had legitimate concerns. It's just that when we use the phrase "legitimate concerns" it's a red flag that we don't have any legitimate concerns.

It's the next level of the "talk about women's rights without mentioning the word 'woman'" game. You're allowed to talk politics as long as you don't use any of the vocabulary you require. Mime is also not permitted.

If you scour the twitter histories of 99% of men doing this policing, you'll find derogatory words to describe trans women, which they'll dismiss as something "everyone" was doing 10 years ago (no, we weren't). Yet now they're judging women for phrases like "female bodied".

twitter.com/glosswitch/status/1489959320787771398?t=XF9_miUNmRZpZVnyxB_xLg&s=19

Thank you PurgatoryOfPotholes for the Glosswitch link. Parts of this thread demonstrate precisely what she's talking about.

Most women are so desperate to wash that they then agree to the exam being done by a male doctor. This is unjust and unfair.

I completely agree. No woman should ever feel pressured to accept a male HCP. However that HCP presents, no matter his 'inner feelings'. If a woman requests a female, she should be able to have a female, for whatever reasons she has; she shouldn't have to explain or justify her feelings.

She should also be confident that when a role is clearly marked as 'female only' and open only to females that the person who is given that role will be female. So she doesn't attend a service she has been told is female only, only to be confronted by a male.

Again; we have single sex exemptions in the Equality Act for a reason.

Yes that's how some people perceived it. It was unnecessary, it neither changed the law or the bill and didn't address the fundamental problem of the lack of female examiners. It was a cheap shot by a gender critical SNP to turn a crucial bill into an excuse to own the trans which ended up shifting the debate away from the real problem and turning into yet another row about trans people. I understand why Rape Crisis Scotland objected to it, although personally since it makes no difference I'd have paid it no heed and not given them the row they wanted

If it made no difference, why did anyone object to an amendment which simply clarified the fact that women should have the right to a same sex medical examiner after having been raped? TRA are constantly saying that nobody is saying that sex and gender identity are the same, so what was the problem with this amendment?

Indeed. Dogwhistles available here: www.adulthumanfemale.store/product-page/dog-whistle

In 2013, there was little expectation that a women requesting a female doctor could have a transitioned male doctor presented in reply to that request. Sex and gender was used interchangeably because people didn’t know that this could potentially happen.

This. It is legislators' job in the drafting stage to take account of changes in language and to attempt to predict and avoid potential issues with statutory interpretation.

I believe the issue is that when women find language to articulate what we want despite the barriers, it is inconvenient. Therefore it will be deemed offensive.

Are you claming Sandy Brindley is not a woman? Why do your views represent womanhood and not hers?

thread from Glosswitch

One of the reasons I know I get so angry about men policing women's speech is because I grew up trying so hard to "crack the code" of avoiding violence. My teenage diaries are full of this obsession with "getting it right next time". >

When I look now, I can see there was never any "right answer". Perfectly sane behaviour could be deemed crazy one day, normal the next. The instability and changing rules were kind of the point, but I still felt such a failure for not finding the magic key. >

I see echoes of this in the way women twist their phrases, rephrase, concede parts of language, politely ask to keep hold of others, but no, the rules always change - because the central rule is, you will always end up in the wrong. >

The dogwhistle, red flag, look-what-you-made-me-do language is just whatever you say. It becomes that because it's you saying it.

twitter.com/glosswitch/status/1489965873003745282?t=TP87m-XMj6s4UBzACLhW6A&s=19

No concerns about the use of the term gender were raised when the original bill was passed by the Scottish Parliament in December 2013; the terms sex and gender are often used interchangeably. Replacing one word with another will have no impact on the availability of female doctors

Twist twist twist.

In 2013, there was little expectation that a women requesting a female doctor could have a transitioned male doctor presented in reply to that request. Sex and gender was used interchangeably because people didn’t know that this could potentially happen.

So that is another misleading statement there.

But yes, there is a shortage of female medical examiners. The Scottish government needs to do something about it. Rather than scare traumatised women by announcing publicly there is a shortage and they should just suck up their trauma.

What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

Women not being entitled to request a female examiner is also a fundamental problem.

What kind of mind can deny the right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

It's not what we say that's the problem. The problem is that it's us expressing disagreement.

Glosswitch had a great thread on that today.

But it's untrue that Rape Crisis opposed this amendment because they wanted to force rape survivors to have to use a trans examiner - they opposed the bill being hijacked to make a cheap shot at trans people.

You should be ashamed of yourself @barleybadminton. You clearly have no idea what the amendment was about if you're reducing it to a 'transphobic dogwhistle'.

BINGO
Using the word sex instead of gender is a transphobic dogwhistle

Honestly barley - you really are the gift that keeps on giving

Greetin faced wean. See you

I would hope that if someone genuinely felt too traumatised to work with a trans counsellor Mridul would find a way to facilitate that

Have you seen anywhere any evidence that it is whether or not someone is trans or not that is causing issues?

And even then, you'd have to have an agreed definition of 'trans', gender etc, to be able to establish that.

Under current information from stonewall etc, most people on here are trans, so it's unlikely it's "being trans" that is a problem.

As well you know, because you've been told repeatedly, yet you dishonestly pretend you haven't.

Round and round the mulberry bush we go!

If the amendment would make no difference, then why the passionate opposition? We know there is a shortage of female doctors. We know women are pressured by circumstances into having a male examiner.

We want women to have the legal right to request one. What kind of mind can deny that right to request a female examiner to a shaking, traumatised woman on the worst day of her life when that person is also the CEO of a rape crisis centre?

Omg why on a Saturday night when Scotland won the rugby 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🙌🏽🙌🏽🔥

Am I speaking to a person who gives no fucks about women in Scotland

As said before crack on barley.

Say what.

See my question up there

What do you think

The amendment went through

Don’t just cut and paste stuff