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Inspired by the six words thread...FWR haiku anyone?

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 03/02/2022 15:46

(Disclaimer I am extremely amateur at this, and welcome any feedback on errors)

Inspired by the "MN in six words" thread in FWR (annoyingly I can't link as I am on the app) I thought it would be good to have a FWR haiku thread.

Here are my efforts to start us off (I never know whether to capitalise or not, and I also want to use "silenced" but can't work out whether it is 2 or 3 syllables Blush)

Women of Mumsnet
are not witches for burning
We will not submit

Pretend all you want
but men are not women and
biology rules

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butnobodytoldme · 07/02/2022 16:36

white Irish women
may not self declare as
black African men

GreenWhiteViolet · 07/02/2022 16:08

Women's minds are not
Your terra nullius. See?
Gender is a lie.

GreenWhiteViolet · 07/02/2022 15:58

You identify
And demand we believe you.
Still - it is not true.

GreenWhiteViolet · 07/02/2022 15:52

Some of these are brilliant!

Not 'choice' nor 'kindness' -
But women's liberation
Will free our daughters

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 07/02/2022 15:22

Eeek, and obviously I have lost the ability to punctuate in the intervening years! I wrote that song in 2018 Shock

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 07/02/2022 15:21

And just in case I've outed myself as some people in my life know I made that song Wink and also just (ironically) for full disclosure, I speak as someone who had had a privileged life at that age. It didn't make me a selfish twat playing and pretending to be something I wasn't. I was just grateful for all that I did have and recognised how privileged I was. Unlike fucking men these days who are playing and pretending, stupid as well as ignorant.

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 07/02/2022 15:13

@LilithOfEden that is exactly why I used that song - it illustrates the point so nicely! So a lot of it was kind of written already Grin

Fuck off with your privilege of being able to change your life at any time. Stop playing at being us - in the "Common People" scenario, it's rich students living in wealthy areas with very high family incomes saying but I feel poor so I want the scholarship for disadvantaged students who facing obstacles I can't even imagine and have worked so hard to achieve all they have. Men are saying well I feel like a woman so I want the scholarship for women who have faced additional barriers all their lives in a patriarchal society and have worked so hard to achieve all they have.

Why the fuck can't people see this? (Obvs all the women here can see it, but it's infuriating that we have to spend our time getting it out there and explaining it to people, oh and getting arrested and houses searched for trying to do so...)

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DomesticatedZombie · 07/02/2022 10:36

@Polly99

Men can't explain the why Of "woman". There simply is no y In women.

Not sure I obeyed haiku rules there.

also excellent
DomesticatedZombie · 07/02/2022 10:36

Fantastic, OP.

'Grow your hair and wear a skirt
Pretend that all your feelz are hurt
Pretend the records can be wiped
Conform to all the stereotypes
But still you’ll never get it right
Cause when you’re laid in bed at night
And female fun just starts to pall
If you changed your mind you could stop it all.'

LilithOfEden · 07/02/2022 10:26

Nah, it's a fab adaption, @WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles , and a very apt song to use. Love the line "If you changed your mind you could stop it all" . How true, and says it all really. How many of these people would change their minds if they had to leave the liberal West for any reason? Reminds me of how I felt as a working class student at a high fallutin' Uni when Common People was in the charts. The rage and despair I'd feel at some of the idiots who enjoyed wasting their time on JCR politics, "slumming it" - and having a go/laughing at those of us who had to hit the books and work part time to be able to live - knowing they had a huge safety net if they flunked out, is all there in that song's lyrics and music. The song is completely right for the rage and despair the TRA movement has created.

WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 07/02/2022 10:07

Oh dear I killed my own thread BlushGrin

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WeBuiltCisCityOnSexistRoles · 06/02/2022 00:19

Oh fuck it I'll post it (and see if it stays up!) This is for women my age who remember Pulp and "Common People" Smile

They came from Staines, they had a thirst for knowledge
They saw a bandwagon at sixth form college
That’s where I caught their eye

They told me that they felt just like me
I said “in that case go live my life,
They said fine
Then in thirty seconds time they said

We want to dress like women people
We want to have whatever women people have
We want to be like women people
Want to live like women people like me

Well what else could I do
I said “I’ll see what I can do”

I told them about women’s spaces
I don’t know why
But it must have started somewhere
So it started there

They said pretend we’ve got no willies,
I just laughed and said,
"you’re so silly”
They said "Yeah?
Well I can't see anyone else laughing in here.
Are you sure..

You want to live like women people,
You want to have whatever women people have,
You want to dress like women people,
You want to be like women people like me
But I didn't understand,
I just smiled and held their hand.

Grow your hair and wear a skirt
Pretend that all your feelz are hurt
Pretend the records can be wiped
Conform to all the stereotypes
But still you’ll never get it right
Cause when you’re laid in bed at night
And female fun just starts to pall
If you changed your mind you could stop it all.

You'll never live like women people,
You'll never do whatever women people do,
You'll never see like women people,
Your male gaze never slides out of view
So go back to being you
Because there’s nothing else to do

Sing along with the women people,
Sing along and it might just get you through.
Laugh along with the women people,
Laugh along even though they're laughing at you,
And the stupid things that you do.
Because you know women are cool.

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Polly99 · 05/02/2022 21:21

Men can't explain the why
Of "woman".
There simply is no y
In women.

Not sure I obeyed haiku rules there.

ExtraPlinky · 05/02/2022 12:49

@Shortpoet

Did you post this tweet? We’re here to check your thinking, We are the thought police.
Brilliant
ThrowawayBerna · 04/02/2022 19:42

Courage calls anew
A dormant army rises
to prevail again.

Dry, but I really feel it.

Cuck00soup · 04/02/2022 18:23

Superb Lilith.

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LilithOfEden · 04/02/2022 17:32

@Waitwhat23 thank you. It's a very cathartic exercise. And has kept me from the boring stuff I was suppose to be doing today.

@CompleteGinasaur this is for you, you planted the idea in my head with your reference to Pam's teeth!

Ballad Of A Former "Cis Female Trans Ally"

Oh, I wish I'd looked after my rights,
And spotted the dangers that hid,
Behind TRAs
Misogyny lays,
Oh, I wish I'd looked after my rights.

I wish I'd been that much more willin'
To listen to Gender Crit women,
To listen to Posie,
Jo, Kathleen and Rosie,
And not slander them as a villain.

Oh I wish I'd ignored Owen Jones,
When calling GCs homophobes,
A trope he would cry,
When truth socked in his eye,
And science was too much for his lobes.

When I think of the battles I picked,
The two fingers up that I flicked,
At girls stuck in schools,
Where sex ed's taught by fools,
My conscience gets horribly pricked.

My mother, she told me no end,
GC feminism's your friend,
I was young then, and careless,
My space seemed not fair, unless
I shared it, for men I would bend.

Oh, I showed them my liberal cred,
Cared not for scared women, now dead,
Prisons, loos, gave the lot,
To all genders with cocks,
I must have been mad in the head.

If I'd known I was paving the way,
For kids to be told they're not gay,
Stuck on hormones, ruined lives,
Prey to surgeons and their knives,
I'd have thrown that crap trans flag away.

Those women in Her Majesty's care,
Must look at my type with despair,
Rapist women, killers too,
Now are many, once were few,
Prison stats? No good data is there.

How I laughed at my mother's campaignin',
Against "social justice", she was flailin',
But now comes the reckonin'
It's me GC's beckonin'
Oh I wish I'd looked after my rights.

butnobodytoldme · 04/02/2022 16:12

(From another thread title)

Keep prisons single
Men shouldn't rape other men
Men must be kind

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Cuck00soup · 04/02/2022 14:50

Bugger that went to soon

Wanted to steal from David Bowie.
^Oh man, look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man, wonder if he'll ever know.^

Cuck00soup · 04/02/2022 14:47

A Glorious Phenomenon
Must not be discussed
Can't look under the fairy dust

But the Elephant in the Room
Is still there.
And we can see that the Emperor is bare.

Validation is what they seek.
Safeguarding is what we need.
So they lie and deceive,
Gaslight and DARVO
And entitlement shows.

But a few brave witches say no.
And the Clapham Bus riders aren't fools.

Cuck00soup · 04/02/2022 14:24

I want what she has
Said Harry, wanting to be Sal
No said women. Ends.

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