Webchat Stella Creasy and Caroline Nokes.

Also woman are more than just bloody mothers. It's so patronising

You don't get campaigns going 'get out and vote, Dads!'

Also 'MumsThatVote' as a name to try to encourage people to stand for office, vs actually vote, is just stupid.

And all of us saying terrible, evil, radicalised things like 'no'.

And 'female people need rights too'.

And 'this be kind and inclusion words you keep using in an exceptionally hypocritical way meaning 'woman, do what you're told' - what's up with that?'

And 'no, I don't care the degree of transition any one has made, I still cannot share a space with them where I am undressed or vulnerable, and I am not budging on that because respect and tolerance has to be mutual and my body is not a validation tool for males'.

WTF would they think women couldn't feel this angry, this invaded and walked all over, all by themselves? Do they think if they could stop us saying this stuff that the situation will smell any less? Do they think if they don't let women say 'no' online that the answer will magically turn to yes?

Someone come and explain this to me.

They love to call us radicalised and a cult.
Apparently we all have at least half a dozen sock accounts too to boost numbers and spend hours harassing people online too.

Looking through Twatter comments it is mostly men chastising women for daring to take about women.

I saw that of 28k posts across MN 1k were on the Sex and Gender board. No wonder they want us silenced. The naughty corner seems to generate a lot of posts, views and as we know, many more lurkers.

Women who won't surrender their spaces, language, resources and selves to males on demand must have been 'radicalised'.

I mean what other reason would they mind?

I read obnoxious tweets and replies like MLC's today and have to come right here to where the normal people are to calm down, to be honest. It's people on there with attitudes like that that drove me here in the first place. Ironically.

They like the word 'radicalised', don't they? I used to think that had to be a joke but they really mean it.

Sorry - wrong thread - will ask for my message to be removed.

Likes not lies.

KittenKong

That thread is fascinating. Plenty of naked misogyny but it's worth looking at the lies on the responses. We're must be really busy considering there is only 6 of us.

twitter.com/justine_roberts/status/1488578848350474242?s=21

Justine RT that one with a sharp retort!

1/ Today Mumsnet had 28k+ posts on everything from Boris Johnson, ethical clothing, mental health, feeling invisible in your 40s, govn childcare top up scheme etc. Fewer than 1k were on sex and gender topic. MN has helped around 6000 women out of DV situation in last 3 yrs...

2/ Calling Mumsnet “radicalised” (and the torrent of misogyny it seems to have sparked on Twitter) is not particularly feminist...

twitter.com/youngvulgarian/status/1488502968131506180?s=21

Ooo, link to tweets please @KittenKong?

They can both fuck off to the far side of fuck with their “be kind” patronising wank. They seem to think we are idiots who haven’t given this any thought. How dare they.

One of them is whining on twitter. Twitter is mostly telling them to do one.

Yes, it's all a game of words.

I absolutely agree with Justine on the other thread: they told us exactly how they define 'woman'. Many, many women of the female kind will vehemently disagree and will vote accordingly.

This is what happens: they show us who they are. We vote accordingly.

So disappointing. Absolutely done with Labour. Those two were a total embarrassment today.

And I'm a lifelong lefty voter who doesn't have a clue who honestly represents me now.

I do get the pressure they are under to never say what a 'woman' actually is and just make vague allusions to 'people'. I do! They're in a position where they literally can't define what 'woman' is or they'd lose their jobs.

Which is an absolute bizarro state of affairs, but I don't think anyone could argue it's not true - otherwise they'd have to provide the mysterious, elusive definition.

However, I did find it completely disingenuous to say 'we need to raise the debate' when they absolutely refuse to debate. That was where the mask slipped for me, that showed me that it's all a game of words rather than showing literally any desire whatsoever to establish common ground and work towards genuine solutions.

Well I’m glad I didn’t cancel my afternoon tea plans to take part in this. What a shit show and utter disappointment

Talking about women being empowered in politics but those women can be male.
Telling women to be kinder.
Threatening to delete posts that demand a clear definition of woman in order to be able to discuss women’s roles in and barriers to politics.

Both the MPs and mumsnet should be ashamed of themselves. More silencing of women. More celebration of males. You’re a fucking disgrace.

Yes! This!

Mumsnet is trending on Twitter, I think because of this webchat.