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#StickEmUp Thread 2; Gwent Police investigate dastardly thought criminal Jennifer Swayne

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Thelnebriati · 31/01/2022 14:12

Carrying on the discussion from this thread;
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a4461798-Jennifer-Swayne-arrested-for-stickering

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oldwomanwhoruns · 01/02/2022 09:39

Getting this thread back on track -

The protest went really well. Posie had got some fabulous placards printed with good pithy text on both sides.

We protested on a handy small park/traffic island right outside the main Police station, and so all the cars which had to wait for the lights (it's quite a big traffic junction) were winding down their windows so that they could hear the speakers

Two police (including a DI) listened to all the speakers.

The local paper had a journalist there, who tweeted throughout the protest, to the newspaper.

Lots of photos on Posie's and WRN twitter. And the livestream on YouTube! Smile

EdithStourton · 01/02/2022 08:02

Does posting on a thread mean you are obsessed by something
LOL Barley. The hours of your life that you've spent lecturing the bad mummies about this must be considerable. I've not been able to keep up and I only work part time.

EdithStourton · 01/02/2022 07:54

@barleybadminton

"defacing public property"

Well that's what she did, how would you describe it?

I seem to recall a batch of TRAs drawing all over a pavement some time ago. And TRAs putting up posters and stickers.

(Never mind the abuse on Twitter.)

Barbarantia · 01/02/2022 03:58

Anyone emits a statement based on scientific fact : bias, I tell you! Bias!
Police release a statement based on suspicion : truth, I tell you! Truth!

Grin once you've started seeing through it, you can't unsee it.

Feministwoman · 01/02/2022 02:40

@barleybadminton

My guess is upon answering bail the defendant may be NFA'd for lack of evidence.

lol, they literally caught her in the act and she admitted it in her police interview.

Odfod The *d" is obviously gender neutral. Wouldn't want to upset the monitors!
Avalokiteshvara · 01/02/2022 01:33

I have known Jennifer Swayne personally for about 15 years. THERE IS NO WAY SHE WOULD PUT RAZOR BLADES IN STICKERS! She is a kind and compassionate lady who wouldn't harm anyone.

MrBlobbyLivesNextDoor · 31/01/2022 23:38

It's not just stickers, it's A3 posters as well according to Swayne.

Goodness gracious. Not A3 posters as well😲

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 31/01/2022 23:35

The force released a statement here. It mentions sharp objects have been found behind the stickers.

They warned the public not to try and remove stickers because broken glass and pins had been found underneath them. They worded it very carefully so that everyone would assume they were talking about stickers posted by Jenni, as the BBC and ITV assumed, but covered their arses by not actually coming out and saying it directly. They have obviously failed to do even the most basic of investigations, (or they would have quickly realised that the informant serving them that persistent urban myth was not to be trusted).

Hopefully they will end up having to pay out hefty compensation for smearing Jenni in such a devious and underhanded manner. The people officially responsible for the wrongful arrest, brutality, cruelty and discrimination against a disabled person, and general lack of understanding of the actual law need to be held to account, and there are obviously a lot of us who feel the same way, judging by how quickly the fundraiser has grown.

Gwent police obviously need to get some proper equality and diversion training organised, because, as Jenni told them at the time, they've been Stonewalled.

Bad enough that they wasted tax payers money on getting that mendacious shower in to "train" them on "equality law as Stonewall wishes it to be", but now they are going to waste even more tax payers cash defending the indefensible in court, then paying compensation AND then paying to get training in from a more reliable and trustworthy source, in what UK's actual equality law at the current time, including all of the protected characteristics (which cover sex and disability, but does not include "gender identity").

MargaritaPie · 31/01/2022 23:31

Just posting what they police have said, I'm not aware of any recent updates since then.

HaroldMeeker · 31/01/2022 23:05

Hmmmm. Seeing as I believe that Layla has retracted that bit, or at least clarified they never said it, I can only come to the conclusion that Pie's motives are, ahem, less than wholesome. I'm shocked, I tell you. Shocked.

HaroldMeeker · 31/01/2022 22:24

Sniffs with disapproval at the environmental impact of a3. They really ought to have saved the planet by using a4, you know.

Thelnebriati · 31/01/2022 22:24

OK, thanks, you made your point.

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barleybadminton · 31/01/2022 22:21

@HaroldMeeker

Ooooh A3 posters!!!!

My god! The NERVE of the woman to print A3 posters. ah do declare, ah may faint

Jesus barley, you sound like hyacinth bucket at times.

It's not something I could care less about personally but it is something local councils tend to care about because they have to pay to have them removed (or rather local council tax and business rate payers do). Most councils operate a zero tolerence policy meaning anyone caught will face prosecution of some kind.
Thelnebriati · 31/01/2022 22:21

No worries, lets not get baited into this thread being deleted. Lets keep it general, not specific.

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Waitwhat23 · 31/01/2022 22:18

Apologies @Thelnebriati hadn't seen your last post - I retract my last post.

HaroldMeeker · 31/01/2022 22:17

Ooooh A3 posters!!!!

My god! The NERVE of the woman to print A3 posters. ah do declare, ah may faint

Jesus barley, you sound like hyacinth bucket at times.

Waitwhat23 · 31/01/2022 22:16

Arresting someone based on what they said on twitter is a little more tricky, all they need to say is they made it up to show off and they've got reasonable doubt, but who knows, maybe there will be additional arrests.

I had to laugh at this. Police Scotland seems to have no issue with arresting women based on what they have said on Twitter.

Given the circumstantial evidence, the Police in this case have brought the TRA in for questioning at the very least, surely, given the women who have had knocks on their door to 'find out their thinking' about legal, single sex exemptions?

Thelnebriati · 31/01/2022 22:13

I dont think its wise to speculate as theres an ongoing investigation, so lets knock that on the head. Thanks.

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barleybadminton · 31/01/2022 22:07

"defacing public property"

Well that's what she did, how would you describe it?

Barbarantia · 31/01/2022 21:46

Please don't ignore barely!
The responses are pure weed killer and encourage blossoms!
To be fair, I also don't respond because it is a tad tedious but i send courage to anyone who has the strength to keep at it.

and Hmm at "defacing public property".
when asked to use medically correct terms, you all run for the hills. Out come the police and you are all legal experts with big word hammers for swatting flies.

Gumbomambo · 31/01/2022 21:45

Can I sticker on mumsnet? 🦖

barleybadminton · 31/01/2022 21:28

@Goatsaregreat

It's always interesting to note what or who certain posters are obsessed with - and ponder (for a split second) why? Hmm
Does posting on a thread mean you are obsessed by something?
Goatsaregreat · 31/01/2022 21:26

It's always interesting to note what or who certain posters are obsessed with - and ponder (for a split second) why? Hmm

barleybadminton · 31/01/2022 21:22

@Waitwhat23

I may have missed something but has the TRA who admitted to travelling to Newport to cover over stickers stating that 3 women die a week at the hands of men with their own stickers faced the same charges? They admitted what they intended to do, showed train tickets showing that they were going to travel to the area, posted photos of their stickers in situ and, as far as I can remember, were offering stickers which they had produced to their Twitter followers, inciting them to do the same. If the issue is flyposting, then the same charges will be placed against them surely? Additionally, there had been TRA stickers already on the lampposts, inciting gun violence against women - this will be also be getting vigorously investigated one would assume?

Thing is, nothing I've seen indicates that this is the case. So at the moment it looks like stickers which incite violence against women is A-OK but stickers denouncing women being murdered is enough to have a woman with a disability dragged into a Police station, denied her medication and left to make her own way home at 3.30am, on a mobility scooter.

It's not great optics, is it? Telling though.

It's not just stickers, it's A3 posters as well according to Swayne.

And I have little doubt if the police observed someone flyposting right in front of them they would arrest them no matter what the content. Arresting someone based on what they said on twitter is a little more tricky, all they need to say is they made it up to show off and they've got reasonable doubt, but who knows, maybe there will be additional arrests.