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Mumsnet Webchat about women/mums in politics with Stella Creasy and Caroline Nokes - 1st February

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Bosky · 31/01/2022 11:56

Anyone got any questions for Stella and Caroline? Smile

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PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 13:35

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/02/2022 13:31

We thank them for the sunlight though!

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:31

I thought it was 3 on FWR, but I've no idea about webchats. I'm sure people have been booted off after them

HaroldMeeker · 01/02/2022 13:29

How many deletions before I get banned? Anyone know?

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:28

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RedToothBrush · 01/02/2022 13:25

These webchats always go the same way with politicians.

Its really depressing to see politicians not be able to express something with reasons behind it, and instead say they can't talk about it because of the men!!

How does that inspire and encourage me to want to go into politics too? Why are certain things off limits? For ANY reason? Abuse and harassment isn't going to stop because you effectively bow to it.

I hate these things, and as much as I think they are a good idea in principle, I think the problem is that the participants rarely engage in good faith and just see it as an opportunity to tell women what to do or what to think.

Not sure they are worth MNs time if thats the case.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 01/02/2022 13:25

Well that was an entirely predictable binfire!

FOJN · 01/02/2022 13:24

Apparently Stella is doing work on misogynistic hate crime, god help us all, it won't be worth the paper it's written on if we can't pin down what a woman is.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:23

I wonder if they have both blocked me on Twitter yet ?
I bet it won't take long.

HaroldMeeker · 01/02/2022 13:20

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FOJN · 01/02/2022 13:18

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rogdmum · 01/02/2022 13:17

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Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:16

FOJN oh dear my last comment has just disappeared from the webchat
FFS, although for those of you who missed it I said exactly the same thing on this thread at 13.00 Grin

RedToothBrush · 01/02/2022 13:15

Wellnits not getting answers so whats the point in anyway?

Whats the point is the overall feeling i get. Rather than empowerment.

Dont have an opinion and don't ask difficult questions if you want a career in politics is the over riding impression it leaves.

PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 13:15

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FOJN · 01/02/2022 13:15

I only made a comment about "be kind", nothing obnoxious, and its gone, puff!

I see Glinner has arrived.

Justine has decided any further sex/gender questions will be deleted.

It's maddening for them to start a conversation about women in politics and then behave as if it's unreasonable for us to ask for agreed definitions before we start.

rogdmum · 01/02/2022 13:14

Yes, FOJN I once had a comment on a webchat just completely vanish. I posted a question less than a minute after HQ’s latest post (I hadn’t seen it as was typing). Full expecting it to vanish.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/02/2022 13:13

Being thrown to the lionesses?

I am, of course on the side of the lionesses.

It just seems odd that HQ would be up for this when the outcome is entirely predictable.

justaftb · 01/02/2022 13:13

Justine has arrived to tell us she is deleting any further questions about the "trans debate".

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:11

I have on previous webchats FOJN. See Glinner has arrived Grin

PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 13:11

@FOJN

Has anyone else had a comment deleted as if it was never even there?
No but I'm sure that has happened before on a webchat
RedToothBrush · 01/02/2022 13:10

Being thrown to the lionesses?

Or being asked to be accountable to the public and to reflect on what women are thinking.

Stella is pretty much going 'back my campaign, back my campaign' with not a sausage about what the Labour party themselves do, and how they should be working cross party in terms of aiding representation at lower levels of democracy.

Democracy should start from the grass roots. Instead Stella's focus seems to be on careers at the highest level in politics (which i have to argue is effectively a pet project based on her own experience rather than any listening to the wider public going on).

The lack of listening and just talking at women seems to be a common feature and its something i despise from politicians generally. Its a modern trend to do with PR.

Politicians are no longer able to have any opinions of their own for fear of upsetting the apple cart. That utterly cripples debate and diversity of thought.

The fact that Noakes has inadvertently proved my point about women not having even power to speak on their own terms, is genuinely quite frightening to see.

FOJN · 01/02/2022 13:06

Has anyone else had a comment deleted as if it was never even there?

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/02/2022 13:04

TBH I'm trying to figure out why Justine and friends didn't see this coming. They have been rather thrown at the lionesses.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:00

Be kind
Means STFU