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Mumsnet Webchat about women/mums in politics with Stella Creasy and Caroline Nokes - 1st February

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Bosky · 31/01/2022 11:56

Anyone got any questions for Stella and Caroline? Smile

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littlbrowndog · 01/02/2022 13:57

Yeah there was a big woolly mammoth right there

I hope the 2 ladies saw what was in the corner sitting

SeaRabbit · 01/02/2022 13:57

Well that went well, didn't it. As predicted. I wonder if they were surprised at the almost total lack of questions on anything but women's sex-based rights?

And CN "be kind": Jesus wept, Caroline we moved on from that a long time ago. We also remember your different attitudes to the male professors and female professors in your fact-finding sessions.

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 13:57

@Redshoeblueshoe

Justine you have just posted on the wrong thread Maybe you should sit down in a dark room for a bit
Good plan
PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 13:56

I had a disappeared post which was responding to the faux innocent 'what rights will women lose' nonsense

Helmetbymidnight · 01/02/2022 13:56

Has anyone else had a comment deleted as if it was never even there?

Same. We have become truly invisible.

Mollyollydolly · 01/02/2022 13:56

'Be kind' what a joke. Who do I vote for. Who?

littlbrowndog · 01/02/2022 13:56

Be kind sent me into a right fucking rage

I was like 😠😠😠

Be kind.

Waitwhat23 · 01/02/2022 13:55

It's amazingly awful to hear the phrases 'raise the level of debate' and 'need to be kinder' repeated over and over again without any engagement with the elephant in the room.

I was horrified to see a comment along the lines of 'what sex based rights do you believe are being eroded'. It's outrageously disingenuous, along the lines of Nicola Sturgeon's line about women's concerns 'not being valid'.

People are now voting for Labour as there is no viable alternative or simply spoiling their vote. You'd think politicians would want to properly discuss what so many women find concerning. But no, it's just more handwaving.

After seeing what happened to Joanna Cherry, there's no way on earth I would go into politics even if there was 'childminding money' made available.

TheFnozwhowasmirage · 01/02/2022 13:54

Well,I'm glad that I didn't take the morning off work to engage in that waste of time and energy.🙄
Entirely predictable,we can only be defined when told to 'be kind'.
I tell my daughters to look at the motivation of anyone demanding that they be kind. It very very rarely stands up to scrutiny.

JellySaurus · 01/02/2022 13:53

Me too, FOJN. I guess the 'disappeared' post was so utterly outrageous that it deserved to be cancelled, rather than merely censored.

FOJN · 01/02/2022 13:52

But it is frustrating to another level to hear a woman refer to women reasonably and calmly laying out their concerns as “shouting”, and saying that the level of the debate needs “to be raised”.

That will be the debate some people don't want to have. Difficult to raise the level when you calmly articulate your concerns and the other side takes to social media to hide behind anonymous accounts to issue death and rape threats. To add insult to injury you're then held equally responsible for the poor level of debate.

OldCrone · 01/02/2022 13:50

@FOJN

Has anyone else had a comment deleted as if it was never even there?
Yes. Two.

I posted. It disappeared. I posted again. Disappeared again. But other posts saying more or less what I was saying are still there.

No email from MNHQ.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:49

Goats I think you are right

JellySaurus · 01/02/2022 13:49

Wish I'd screenshot my posts. One of the deleted ones simply explained that we weren't allowed to answer her question on that thread and that she should come and explore this board to discover our answers.

What was unacceptable in that? MN had just stated on the thread that we could not address that specific issue the guest was asking about!

YetAnotherSpartacus · 01/02/2022 13:48

I was totally confused there.

Goatsaregreat · 01/02/2022 13:48

I wonder whether some of the deletions on this thread are because Justine thinks this is the webchat? !!

PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 13:47

Have we entered an odd thread slip?

PerditaNitt · 01/02/2022 13:47

It is difficult enough for women to hear men refer to them as shrill, shouty, bossy and bitchy for expressing their opinions. But it is frustrating to another level to hear a woman refer to women reasonably and calmly laying out their concerns as “shouting”, and saying that the level of the debate needs “to be raised”. Disheartening.

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:47

Justine you have just posted on the wrong thread
Maybe you should sit down in a dark room for a bit

Redshoeblueshoe · 01/02/2022 13:42

Justine I had made a comment, not repeated a question. But hey ho. Webchats are a complete waste of everyone's time if they can't define woman

Appledrop · 01/02/2022 13:40

Well that was my first visit to a live chat and what a disappointment. I even spat my tea out when she went there with that line, kindness. It seems to me that what Labour really wants is to have transwomen join their party, Hmm under the guise of inclusiveness, whatever the heck that means these days but more men basically!

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 13:39

@Redshoeblueshoe

FOJN oh dear my last comment has just disappeared from the webchat FFS, although for those of you who missed it I said exactly the same thing on this thread at 13.00 Grin
As explained a few times now we have rules about the same questions being repeatedly asked on webchats - this is so one single issue doesn't dominate and other topics get airtime.
PerditaNitt · 01/02/2022 13:39

I never would have predicted 5 years ago that “be kind” would be the most likely phrase to send me into a frustrated rage!

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