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Mumsnet Webchat about women/mums in politics with Stella Creasy and Caroline Nokes - 1st February

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Bosky · 31/01/2022 11:56

Anyone got any questions for Stella and Caroline? Smile

Go to:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_live_events/4468388-Webchat-about-women-mums-in-politics-with-Stella-Creasy-and-Caroline-Nokes-1st-February

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Helmetbymidnight · 01/02/2022 14:07

I don't think they did refuse did they. you just didn't agree with them...

I guess so. Shock

thanks Justine.

DoubleTweenQueen · 01/02/2022 14:06

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SeaRabbit · 01/02/2022 14:06

Here's a link:

www.parliamentlive.tv/Event/Index/dfc9f53e-2ac4-4c30-8712-e3df47938fd7

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 01/02/2022 14:06

Thanks for the webchat, @JustineMumsnet. You deserve a Gin and It, for arranging it. With a maraschino cherry, a cocktail onion and an olive, and a little decorative paper umbrella.

That's what I'm having anyway. And yes it does count as three of my five a day.

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 14:06

@ArabellaScott

Gin - well, nobody can tell what's really in that mug, can they?
Brew Brew
ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 14:05

What did Caroline do to the proffesrs

She didn't use their titles, for a start. Called them by their 1st names. (The people arguing for self ID were all afforded correct titles, IIRC).

And the contempt openly dripped from her and her colleague. They gave a hostile interrogation, an accusatory grilling, whereas the 'experts' for the other evidence session were treated with utmost respect and deference.

It's really quite eye opening watching the two evidence sessions and comparing.

UltraVividLament · 01/02/2022 14:05

I thought that they both said variations on - women includes women, transwomen and non-binary? At which point there's very little point asking them for further clarification because it's clear they are already signed up to gender identity ideology.

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 14:05

@Helmetbymidnight

The web chat was on 'women in politics'. They refuse to say what a woman is - its very difficult to have a conversation on women in politics when they can't define their terms.

I would have preferred a proper deletion message. At least then I'd know that I had posted.

I don't think they did refuse did they. you just didn't agree with them...
Beefcurtains79 · 01/02/2022 14:05

I feel like crying after reading that. There’s no hope is there?

littlbrowndog · 01/02/2022 14:04

Ok cool. Ta searabbit

Helmetbymidnight · 01/02/2022 14:02

The web chat was on 'women in politics'. They refuse to say what a woman is - its very difficult to have a conversation on women in politics when they can't define their terms.

I would have preferred a proper deletion message. At least then I'd know that I had posted.

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 14:02

Gin - well, nobody can tell what's really in that mug, can they?

SeaRabbit · 01/02/2022 14:02

LittleBrownDog it was this:

committees.parliament.uk/work/658/reform-of-the-gender-recognition-act/news/137757/gender-recognition-act-reform-women-and-equalities-committee-hears-evidence-from-academics/

See if you can watch and observe the way they call the males (some who say they are women) 'Professor' but not the female professors. And the difference in the approach.

franke · 01/02/2022 14:02

@PronounssheRa

I had a disappeared post which was responding to the faux innocent 'what rights will women lose' nonsense
Oh, this gave me the rage. So utterly obtuse of Stella Creasey.
PronounssheRa · 01/02/2022 14:01

@ArabellaScott

Thanks for letting us ask some of the questions that matter, Justine. Hope you can have a nice cup of tea and a sit down, now. Brew
I think gin or wine might be more suitable. To be fair to justine, at least the session took place and we could ask questions even if the calibre of response was woeful
ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 14:01

@SeaRabbit

Well that went well, didn't it. As predicted. I wonder if they were surprised at the almost total lack of questions on anything but women's sex-based rights?

And CN "be kind": Jesus wept, Caroline we moved on from that a long time ago. We also remember your different attitudes to the male professors and female professors in your fact-finding sessions.

I was utterly shocked at the WESC report, by the evident lack of awareness, research, or basic grasp of any of the issues. As if none of the raging debate, discussions, information, research, anything, had been even given a cursory glance.

It was really quite staggering.

OldCrone · 01/02/2022 14:00

@PronounssheRa

I had a disappeared post which was responding to the faux innocent 'what rights will women lose' nonsense
Mine was too.

I said "How can you protect women's sex-based rights if any man is a woman if he says he is?"

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 14:00

@ArabellaScott

Thanks for letting us ask some of the questions that matter, Justine. Hope you can have a nice cup of tea and a sit down, now. Brew
or Gin maybe?
Helmetbymidnight · 01/02/2022 14:00

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 13:59

@SeaRabbit

Well that went well, didn't it. As predicted. I wonder if they were surprised at the almost total lack of questions on anything but women's sex-based rights?

And CN "be kind": Jesus wept, Caroline we moved on from that a long time ago. We also remember your different attitudes to the male professors and female professors in your fact-finding sessions.

There were actually quite a lot of other questions but they were somewhat drowned out... that's the point
littlbrowndog · 01/02/2022 13:59

Professor s

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JustineMumsnet · 01/02/2022 13:58

@Helmetbymidnight

Has anyone else had a comment deleted as if it was never even there?

Same. We have become truly invisible.

I really don't think so - we're pretty clear on the guidelines about single issue dominating a webchat. You all know them so what do you expect us to do?
littlbrowndog · 01/02/2022 13:58

@SeaRabbit

Well that went well, didn't it. As predicted. I wonder if they were surprised at the almost total lack of questions on anything but women's sex-based rights?

And CN "be kind": Jesus wept, Caroline we moved on from that a long time ago. We also remember your different attitudes to the male professors and female professors in your fact-finding sessions.

What did Caroline do to the proffesrs
ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 13:58

Thanks for letting us ask some of the questions that matter, Justine. Hope you can have a nice cup of tea and a sit down, now. Brew

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 01/02/2022 13:58

I've cut and pasted the whole webchat into a file in case it gets deleted, and in case posts within it are deleted. I want to really study this one.