On this day in 2022 I gave up reasoning with activists

So what they are saying is, that a woman who has lost their baby due to domestic violence, can’t even have this to themselves cos know “men” and non binary people get pregnant too.

What a load of fucking bullshit

JKR is a good example of this. So, the hard of thinking have been told her tweets are transphobic, and they’re now parroting that all over the internet - yet can’t provide a single example in her own words of what she said that was transphobic. The TRA strategy worked, and so they’ll deploy it again and again.

Yes. A particular low point was when JKR said she had ignored child porn posted on her Twitter thread, to show that she didn't rise to the bait despite extreme provocation. And they used that against her to pretend that she didn't care about child porn.

Every argument they make is in bad faith. You know why? Because they know that the position they hold is indefensible. There are no good faith arguments to support a position that is entirely irrational.

I agree it’s deliberate trolling. They no doubt understood the sentence about men, but purposely twisted it in order to make their tweet. It’s a form of propaganda. If you can twist or misrepresent a reasonable statement, then you’re well on the way to making sure anything that person says in future is judged through the same false lens.

JKR is a good example of this. So, the hard of thinking have been told her tweets are transphobic, and they’re now parroting that all over the internet - yet can’t provide a single example in her own words of what she said that was transphobic. The TRA strategy worked, and so they’ll deploy it again and again.

This is why people are re-writing history - the lies become ‘fact’. “Oceania had always been at war with Eastasia”.

There’s a huge audience of people who aren’t very bright, sitting ready to lap up these lies and spread them far and wide. Useful idiots. That’s why the TRAs say obviously false things. It doesn’t matter that we know they’re false, the vacuous virtue-signallers will take them as fact and distribute them far and wide.

I've always believed in the power of rational conversation. Clearly I was deluded.

You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into.
This is an ideological / faith based viewpoint plus deliberate trolling / goading by someone who should know better but prefers to follow the herd they associate with.

It's a good question, Pots. I suppose it's partly an emotional knee jerk response born out of tribalism and simplistic, binary thinking ('there are two sides and if someone disagrees with me they are bad').

People like this dehumanise anyone who disagrees. And so are happy to attack someone whose work is helping women who must be in one of the most difficult and vulnerable positions possible.

So desperate to scrabble for a point to 'win' they beclown themselves and reveal the shallowness of their thinking along with a dizzying lack of empathy and humanity. It's a childish level of discourse.

Which would all be so much noise, if it weren't for the fact that the police in Scotland now apparently take instruction from people like this. That's the real issue.

Nobody would need to pay any attention to malicious and vapid 'activism' like this if it hadn't somehow become sanctioned and upheld and supported by government policy, NHS guidelines, etc, and enforced by police.

I'm guessing the ridiculous tweet is due to this quote from Nicola in the article: 'Men cannot get pregnant, therefore they cannot experience a miscarriage and domestic violence' which is a bit ambiguous. It could be construed as someone saying men can't suffer domestic violence. Whereas she clearly meant they can't suffer a miscarriage as a result of DV.

But I'm sure the tweeter knows this and is just desperately clutching for a(nother) stick to beat her with. Horrible

It does cover the essentials.
I said something similar to DH about this earlier this evening. Except my language was rather colourful !

I see that idiotic tweet was replying to @VictoriaPeckham which (for reasons which elude me, I'd like to know why) is Janice Turner's handle. Janice is good at writing clearly, has she explained to this person their logic fail yet? (And maybe their 'halfway decent human' fail too...)

There is no point in trying to reason when they are doing it deliberately.

This type of thing makes my brain hurt with the absurdity of it all. Well done to Fair Play For Women.

[quote littlbrowndog]Fair play for women has not stopped

fairplayforwomen.com/police-scotland-reported-to-equality-watchdog-for-breach-of-equality-law/[/quote]
Nicola is a champ. I hope she gets a proper response from EHRC.

It's not about education or the ability to reason, it's how about many people saw Trump and his alternative facts, really liked what they were seeing, and then adopted that approach. Even though the progressives among them would claim to hate Trump and everything he stands for.

Boris Johnson has adopted the Trump approach and it's worked out well for him. So far.

The ease with which some people are able to wallpaper over material reality with alternative facts/narratives/science/whatever, to me represents a monstrous narcissism.

Not a failure of education
But it looks like the tweet option was to formulate a false narrative to be abusive and rant educate us all about the "rights of penis owners"

Daughter full-on TWAW. No reasoning with her (because her tribe). It's so depressing that she won't even let me mention it any more, just pretend nothing's going on. So frustrating, she was such an intelligent girl (woman) but now seems to have lost all power of critical thinking... :( .

Fair play for women has not stopped

fairplayforwomen.com/police-scotland-reported-to-equality-watchdog-for-breach-of-equality-law/

Its just horrendous

The police are a fucking embarrassment

FFS doesn't even begin to cover it.

It's not all about meeeeeee. FFS

Similar to the NB's or TM's who think women prioritised for breast cancer treatment have privilege because they have to wait for "top surgery".

These people always have such poor reading comprehension and basic reasoning.

Our regular ones on this board too, who are also fond of disingenuously misreading any statement they can. It’s impossible to tell if it’s genuinely missing the point, or if it’s calculated stupidity, or just that they think it’s some kind of rhetorical manoeuvre or flourish that genuinely convinces other people, or what. (If they are doing it deliberately, they ought to give up because it just makes them look exceedingly thick.)

You cannot have an argument with stupid or mendacious or both.

It's all they have.
Seriously, it's all they have.