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Thread to keep track of people questioned by police for thought crime

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RoyalCorgi · 29/01/2022 17:24

I thought it would be useful if we recorded everyone who'd been questioned by the police for thinking the wrong things or expressing the wrong opinions in the same place so we had something we could refer back to. I'll start with:

Nicola Murray, questioned by police for saying Brodie's Trust would no longer refer women to Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

Jen Swayne, for posting feminist stickers in Newport and owning an academic book by Heather Brunskell-Evans.

A woman (possibly several women) for writing a letter expressing safeguarding concerns to Girlguiding.

Ceri Black for writing a thread about child safeguarding on Twitter.

Marion Millar for tweeting a picture of a suffragette ribbon.

Harry Miller for tweeting a slightly rude poem.

Kate Scottow for being a bit rude towards Steph Hayden on Twitter.

Graham Linehan, also, I think, for being rude to Hayden.

Do add more - I'm sure there are others I've forgotten.

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FOJN · 02/02/2022 22:54

It's staggering that the standards commissioner thought sending warning letters was an appropriate course of action to take. That is quite frightening.

DomesticatedZombie · 02/02/2022 22:03

Holy fuck. That's outrageous.

FannyCann · 02/02/2022 22:01

Has anyone mentioned the House of Lords Four? As discussed here in Private Eye.

Warning letters to four peers for raising questions about trans inmates in women's prisons.

Thread to keep track of people questioned by police for thought crime
FrancescaContini · 02/02/2022 08:06

[quote ArabellaScott]Are we doing outwith the UK?

Rob Hoogland, in Canada - jailed.

'Robert Hoogland was arrested at the British Columbia Supreme Court in Vancouver for speaking against court-ordered testosterone injections for his teenage daughter.'

thefederalist.com/2021/03/26/canadian-father-jailed-for-talking-about-court-ordered-transgendering-of-his-teenage-daughter/[/quote]
This is terrifying. Unimaginable.

EdithStourton · 02/02/2022 07:57

*of

EdithStourton · 02/02/2022 07:57

And meanwhile, in the real world. Front page is Monday's Times

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EdithStourton · 02/02/2022 07:55

Bloody hell, that's chilling.

TheCurrywurstPrion · 02/02/2022 06:12

Interesting to note the trend in countries where self-ID is law. Canada was listed above, and Norway has moved beyond arrests and sinister chats to punishment.

Norway imprisoned and fined a man for being rude in a Facebook row.

4w.pub/man-convicted-for-misgendering-trans-identified-male/

Bosky · 02/02/2022 04:09

The police took the trouble to identify the owner of a vehicle "seen in the vicinity of some feminist chalking" and then call at his house to invite him to "make a statement" .

Not mentioned if they thought he might be a perp or a witness. If the latter then Stasi-level policing, or what?

And before our resident "legal expert on vandalism" pipes up: how often do the police take the trouble to do that for non-feminist "vandalism" (chalking, stickering, etc.)?

crit_gen
26 Jan 2022
"2 officers appeared on my doorstep after my car was seen in the vicinity of some feminist chalking & they invited me down to the police station to make a statement. Needless to say I declined their offer."

twitter.com/crit_gen/status/1486307771335286786

I wonder what that detective work (contacting DVLC), then sending two police officers out, then writing up the reports cost?

I wonder how how the police might have better spent their time solving non-feminist actual "crimes"?? Like rape, for example.

I bet they log all the time and money they spend on persecuting women's rights activists to imaginary "transphobic hate crime".

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/02/2022 00:20

Women thrown out of pub, police called for the offence of "having a meal and a chat whilst being female" after seeing an (excellent) feminist Fringe show in Edinburgh.

Paper had to add edit to correct the pronouns of the person who called the police.
www.scotsman.com/news/politics/inquiry-launched-into-row-over-transphobia-in-edinburgh-pub-3355594

Nomoreusernames1244 · 01/02/2022 20:55

James Treadwell

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 20:55

Are we doing outwith the UK?

Rob Hoogland, in Canada - jailed.

'Robert Hoogland was arrested at the British Columbia Supreme Court in Vancouver for speaking against court-ordered testosterone injections for his teenage daughter.'

thefederalist.com/2021/03/26/canadian-father-jailed-for-talking-about-court-ordered-transgendering-of-his-teenage-daughter/

Nomoreusernames1244 · 01/02/2022 20:52

There’s a man from a university- i want to say stoke? Saw it on twitter, might not have been the police but I think he’s been investigated by the uni.

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 20:50

Stella Perrett: cartoonist:

“My ‘controversial’ cartoon was reported to my local force police, but the police never informed me: I only found out after a reporter from the Mail on Sunday approached Avon and Somerset Police on my behalf. They finally provided a one-paragraph email response that the NCHI complaint did exist, but that no action had yet been taken.'

www.faircop.org.uk/case-studies/stella-perrett/

ArabellaScott · 01/02/2022 20:50

Not questioned, but Julia Long was removed from an event by police & security

www.faircop.org.uk/case-studies/dr-julia-long/

JellyinaWelly · 01/02/2022 08:57

Stazi all over again

BaronMunchausen · 01/02/2022 08:55

@ArabellaScott

'Declan Armstrong (19) was found guilty of a hate crime in the UK for asking whether a uniformed police officer was 'a boy or a girl.' The comment made by Armstrong, who has Aspergers and ADHD upset the female to male officer '
Yes, he received an uplifted sentence under the Public Order Act.

I suspect most people with NCHIs or actual prosecutions are female, not sure if there's any way of finding out.

ArabellaScott · 30/01/2022 11:13

'Declan Armstrong (19) was found guilty of a hate crime in the UK for asking whether a uniformed police officer was 'a boy or a girl.' The comment made by Armstrong, who has Aspergers and ADHD upset the female to male officer '

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RoyalCorgi · 30/01/2022 11:10

@Rightsraptor

The 2 guide leaders in your original post *@RoyalCorgi*, were Helen Watts and Katie Alcock. Then we have the recent GG cases of the police visits to the women who raised safeguarding issues re Monica Sulley. Not sure if we have names yet. Nicola Murray, founder of a rape crisis centre in Scotland, was visited by the police in November 2021 about a policy statement she made on Twitter.
I wasn't thinking of Helen and Katie - I don't think they were visited by the police.

But when Nina Killen started a thread on Twitter saying that a friend of hers had been questioned by the police for writing a letter to Girlguiding expressing her concern about the appointment of Monica Sulley, two other women on the same thread said that they also knew someone who had been questioned by the police for writing similar letters.

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EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 30/01/2022 10:17

are we complaining to the police about the TRA tweets and posters which we find offensive and threatening? Are we making the complaints and being ignored?

I suspect that there's an asymmetry in maturity and a sense of what's an appropriate use of a public service.

Or it's a hangover from, "When they go low, we go high".

Rightsraptor · 30/01/2022 08:14

The 2 guide leaders in your original post @RoyalCorgi, were Helen Watts and Katie Alcock. Then we have the recent GG cases of the police visits to the women who raised safeguarding issues re Monica Sulley. Not sure if we have names yet. Nicola Murray, founder of a rape crisis centre in Scotland, was visited by the police in November 2021 about a policy statement she made on Twitter.

Georgeskitchen · 30/01/2022 07:41

Violent crime is rocketing by the minute and police complaining about lack of manpower yet they seem to have infinite man hours to police the Internet for hurty feels
Any political party who stops this nonsense will get my vote!

EdithStourton · 30/01/2022 07:34

[quote eleanorwish]Margaret Nelson in Suffolk who had a call from the police about her 'offensive' views.

www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/ipswich-humanist-stands-by-transgender-tweets-2832902[/quote]
That was three years ago - it's appalling how long this has been going on.

And Suffolk Police have the time to hassle someone in Ipswich, while rural policing in East Anglia is in bloody crisis. Farmers have to block field access to keep hare coursers off, fly tipping is a fucking blight (same locations, over and over again, you'd think a trail cam or two might help nail those doing it), you have to wait hours to days for a cop to turn up for a burglary... Never mind the nationally atrocious rape conviction stats.

But wrongthink? Let's chuck the full weight of the law at the merest suggestion!

Great idea for a thread, btw.

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