Police interview Nicola Murray

"Murray said: “Then they said, ‘We better watch what we are saying — we don’t want to be quoted as police officers saying such and such.’"

Brilliant. To quote, journalist says Murray says policemen said they were wary of saying anything that could be quoted.

I'm hopelessly optimistic.

I'm starting to wonder if it's a cry for help from the police

Perhaps. But a clearer cry for help would have been for the Scottish Police Federation to come out and say “we are being directed to act in unacceptable ways by the governing political party in Scotland”.

I lean more towards the arrogant twats explanation. Occam’s razor and all that.

This "check the thinking behind your statement" is so close to the PC Gul statement to Harry, which landed the college of policing in much publicity and hot water, that it has me thinking it might be deliberate. Also the QED statement. Not in an effort to wind feminists up, but to expose the ridiculous things the police are forced to carry out in the name of hate crimes on Twitter. Two detectives making a three hour round trip to ask a woman why she thinks women's services are important is the most ludicrous waste of an police resources imaginable. They can't be blind to this. Any ordinary person applying common sense can see how stupid it is.

I'm starting to wonder if it's a cry for help from the police.

It means they're arrogant twats

The Times article finishes with this line

In a statement the Scottish Police Federation said: “QED.”

What does this mean in the context of the article?

I've never been able to see comments in the app (iPad) ever. But never any problem seeing them from a link open in Safari. I have to scroll down below adverts/links to related stories.

Is there a right way now to think in Scotland.

Are the police going to come in to our homes if we say something on Twitter that someone doesn’t like.

Is that how it works here now

Dectetives as well. Not the ordinary police. And traveled to interview

Am still waiting for the police from a few months ago when I made a report. 🤷‍♀️🤦‍♀️

So far I have never had a problem seeing comments in The Times app, it is only ever a problem viewing on a desktop.

Sometimes it takes a few moments for the comments to load and it looks at first as if there is no comments section.

Sometimes I can't see the comments when I have a VPN switched on but then they come into view if I turn it off and refresh the page.

However, today I have got a VPN switched on and I can see them no problem.

It is one of those annoying "intermittent problems", like the funny noise your car makes but it goes mysteriously quiet when you take it to a mechanic to have it looked at

If you are subscribed the difference is that you can make comments as well as view them. (You can do other things too, like make links with share tokens and "bookmark" articles in your account.)

Utterly ridiculous.

The police say they have to investigate every hate crime or incident that is reported, but that shouldn't mean all common sense goes out the window. If they determine that no crime has been committed, that should be the end of it, no?

Knowing Nicola hadn't done anything wrong but turning up to ''have a word'' anyway makes it look like their intention is to intimidate women into silence, to put them off speaking up in future...

(picture from Julie Bindel's Twitter)

I had to refresh the page a few times to be able to see them.

Also can't see comments (reading via sharetoken).

Thanks - but I still can't see them

I haven't been able to see the comments in the last week or so on shared articles - and still can't. Shame, they're the best bit and reassure me that we're not alone in thinking all this is bonkers.

What the fuck?!

I think the police force has a shockingly high number of abusive misogynistic wankers who are just loving the opportunities to harass women.

Why were detectives sent all the way from Edinburgh to a village outside Perth? What a waste of expertise and time!

Until this week I could see comments if I opened the share token articles in an incognito window.

Now I can't see them at all.

Assistant Chief Constable Gary Ritchie said: “Hate crime and discrimination of any kind is deplorable and entirely unacceptable. Police Scotland will investigate every report of a hate crime or hate incident.”

They are going to be very busy, especially as Wadwha claims “Since 2019, I have reported hate to the police more times than I can count. No charges, no convictions." - so no crimes then, but every one has been investigated. Is there such a thing as a malicious complainant? How often can someone like Wadwha cry wolf before the police stop wasting much needed resources?

I can't see any comments- do you have to subscribe to see them?

over 1,400 comments on the Jenni Swayne article!