Police interview Nicola Murray

The real problem in my view is that senior officers are more interested in building their own careers and don't care who gets trampled in their rush.

Two excellent women called Nicola involved in this appalling situation and another Nicola who despite being “ feminist to her finger tips” is a bloody disgrace and a embarrassment to Scotland.

Comments definitely open now... and overwhelming support Nicola Murray and Brodie’s Trust

MBM article here:

murrayblackburnmackenzie.org/2022/01/29/hate-incidents-and-freedom-of-expression/?fbclid=IwAR2JgbhdAXN7zr1R9zVezEh8WgTUUU_rEOLJ0CRxFLtN7lsn7i_T8I4KL4E

'we suggest that Police Scotland establish a specialist team, with a strong handle on the law in relation to freedom of speech, as well as the current debate on sex and gender identity, to screen any reported incidents involving allegations where criminality and/or prejudice are not clear.'

'In February 2020, Police Scotland told the Times newspaper: “An offensive joke may be reported by someone, but not amount to any criminality, so we would log this as a hate incident.”'

'in failing to clarify what is abusive in relation to sex and gender identity, MSPs have given added impetus to unfounded or vexatious complaints. This situation, which is felt at the early stages of the criminal justice process, is likely to be compounded when the Act comes into force, and can be expected to reinforce the self-censorship and institutional caution that is already evident in this area.'

[quote littlbrowndog]Fair play for women reporting Scottish police

fairplayforwomen.com/police-scotland-reported-to-equality-watchdog-for-breach-of-equality-law/[/quote]
Good for FPFW. These police forces in hock to the bullying trans lobby groups are a complete menace. Their bias and embedded misogyny needs exposing.

Fair play for women reporting Scottish police

fairplayforwomen.com/police-scotland-reported-to-equality-watchdog-for-breach-of-equality-law/

Another article in the Times today:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9bf7dce8-8155-11ec-afe3-4426f55f9ac6?shareToken=1cc12f879a7d7c1ef9785bfa45083be8

I think thier "QED" means "we told you so"! - yes, I agree.

I was always taught "so it is shown" for QED

Policing comments are interesting.
In a normal world I would have hope that the police being opposed to this crap might help but this is SNP world - they kept on at Named Person's despite pretty much every professional body opposing it. They seem to actively seek out crap legislation to spend a fortune on then cost even more in the courts.

The Scottish Police Federation opposed the Hate Crime Bill and said it would be impossible to police. Last week Calum Steele (the secretary) was in the Times saying people were reporting comments that upset them on Twitter as "crimes".

I think thier "QED" means "we told you so"!

The SPF is distinct from the big police bosses, they represent the rank and file. There is clearly an issue!

quad erat demonstrandum (sp)
my understanding is -
'which was to have been proved'- in other words, the thing we set out to prove, has been proved
which does actually bear the interpretation put on it here, but expressed in a rather obscure way- do they even write 'QED' in maths anymore???

The next Rebus novel is going to be pretty boring, isn't it? No murders, just a selection of women having their thinking checked.

• I take it to mean 'we told you this would create impossible situations but you didn't listen, we've said we can't police hate crime on Twitter and here you go, it's ridiculous '

'As has been demonstrated' quad erat demonstrandum in my entirely ropy Latin.

here

QED means you've proven something. It's pretentious to use it when you're not discussing a proof, and embarrassing to use it you're just ranting and not even remotely proving anything.

from google. for those of us who had to look it up.

For those unclear on why the Scottish Police Federation said "QED":

"A 76 per cent rise in reported crimes in which the transgender issue was the aggravating factor (76 reports) contrasted with 6.1 per cent growth in all hate crime reports (3,782) reflecting the impact of online rows about trans rights and gender identity, according to the Scottish Police Federation."

So, SPF, what do think about this latest incident?

"QED"

I'm starting to wonder if it's a cry for help from the police

Me too.

"Check your thinking" is like a hostage statement.

This report should never, ever have been taken seriously. It's utterly chilling, and reprehensible. I just don't know what to say to this, or anyone who thinks persecuting and terrorising a women who runs a children's charity is 'the right side of history'.

One interpretation, however, is that it means something like "Look at this madness. This is an example of what we're being forced to do."

Equally possible that the SPF spokesperson didn't know what QED meant and was using it wrongly!