Woman on ward - complains about male patient. Is discharged.

I wanted to add a note that it can be confusing when people just use the word hospital "ward". In our hospital at least, all "wards" are mixed sex but within those wards are single sex bays.

I have not seen the admission of a transperson on our ward but would imagine they would be allocated a single side room.

I will ask when I am next in, what the policy is. Will be interesting to find out .......
(south of England)

Why don't you answer why males have any right to be I'm spaces set aside for females.

Why isn't no enough?

Sorry but that just sounds like you're reeling off from a script now.
Nobody said you were anyone's mother.
Nobody said you were a support human (only seen that phrase on here with people referring to themselves as one when nobody else has)

Now I want you to evidence at what objective point, upon which we can base law and policy, a male who 'identifies as a woman' comes out of the 'high risk' class of male and into the 'low risk' class of female. Is it when they have had full SRS? Hormones? Boob job? Long hair and makeup? Or just their own declaration that they are a actually a woman?

We said no even without the safety issue as you refuse to acknowledge that, privacy and dignity are still important.

Male bodies higher surgically altered belong with other male bodies.

Female with female.

We do not owe men and males some approved list of reasonable to jot consent to males spaces set aside fir females.

We are not validation tools for males.

We are not human shields

We are not your emotional support human

We are not your mother.

We do NOT comsent.

No

Why not?
Because people need evidence and sources please.
Not a feeling of feeling like someone's mum in your head.

Well if women areno safer stay with the men and males then ... what are you even arguing for .

At the hands if males no doubt
You have no way of knowing that though, you're just guessing, hence your "no doubt ''
Yes, most of it probably is but abuse is abuse whoever it's coming from whether male or female

People saying they don't feel like being your mum won't wash.

Why not? It is not down to women to give themselves up as human shields to protect one subset of males from other males.

At the hands if males no doubt.

So, again why dint males including transwomen sort out male violence or set up spaces away.

What has that got to do with women. We did this already.

I think it's frankly bonkers and a deliberate misinterpretation of the facts as stated by C4 to claim transwomen are the safest demographic.

It's a GC credo that no trans people pass, no? In which case, you surely believe that trans women come across as gender non conforming men, and trans men as gender non conforming women. But there's no evidence suggesting that GNC men and women are at less risk of violence... Surely you would agree that with respect to butch lesbians and effeminate gay men, there's often quite a high risk from (largely male) violence? If you think trans people do not pass, how are you getting the idea that they are magically immune from violence when being parsed as gender non conforming?

I know how frustrating it is to see the inflated trans murder rate being waved around. But that doesn't mean GC feminists should try to misstate stats too.

(This, by the way, is pretty much what I referred to upthread re: transphobia in FWR. There is an overweening mood of hostility towards the idea that trans people could have a hard time, that being trans is actually probably quite difficult, that it isn't just something being done to get at women. I genuinely think it is terrible for the image of GC feminism to maintain this approach. And no, I am not saying that means capitulating or Being Kind to everything a male individual asks for.)

Your BBC link specifically says that there is serious violence towards trans people in the UK and even gives an example (won't post as fairly graphic description and don't want to upset anyone)
So you're just linking to evidence that yes, actually, there is violence in the UK against trans people - not much murders but they do still happen.
Violence and physical attacks much more commonplace.

Warrant

We are talking uk.

Sex workers a highly dangerous situation fir everyone involved in it is not really relevant to hospital wards in the UK.

But if we play that game how ablut the hundreds if deaths if women last year I'm Honduras?. Is that enough to Watten safe spaces kn the UK?

That link shows there has been murders, though.
How many murders do you seem not enough to bother about and therefore shows they're '' safe '' (in somes eyes?)

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-54992071.amp

Again.even the.bbc. the BBC. say none in the UK in the last ur or 2

www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk

But statistically, transwomen are much safer than both men and women in the UK
Evidence please?

kareningalasmith.com/2021/02/08/2021/

UK
www.statista.com/statistics/944650/number-trans-murders-latin-america-country/

Note uk not listed

Still waiting for this "evidence
Same here, as in still waiting for evidence that people who are trans aren't in any danger in the UK.
People saying they don't feel like being your mum won't wash.

Are you actually also saying that people who are trans are always completely safe in the UK?

No one is completely safe. But statistically, transwomen are much safer than both men and women in the UK.

As another poster said, it'll need to be relevant to the UK, Brazilian statistics won't wash.