Woman on ward - complains about male patient. Is discharged.

Yeah, that didn't work out so well for her, did it as she clearly didn't look '' woman '' enough.

Wouldn't have been an issue once. Until people like you started pushing to including men in women's spaces. Now women have to be extra vigilant. As the likelihood is so much higher.

You must be proud of your contribution to this situation.

Nobody WAS unsafe though, what doesn't sit right is the whole demonising of a whole group of people just because you (general you) deem them a threat.

On this occasion no.

What about all the other occasions when men are in women's sex segregated spaces? Does that concern you?

Nobody WAS unsafe though, what doesn't sit right is the whole demonising of a whole group of people just because you (general you) deem them a threat.

So you don't think there should be any female single sex spaces because that would essentially be 'demonising a whole group of people' (ie. Men).

My husband is a lovely man, not a threat and would never hurt anyone. No one would be unsafe if he were in a female only hospital ward, so is it right he should stay in one?

It’s interesting that Barley and Eel only turned up to wokescold AFTER Gilly tweeted that the person on her award was female after all. Why weren’t they present from the start, defending TWAW and its logical consequence that women (cunty ones) have no right to single sex spaces.

A biological woman will always look woman enough because that’s what they are
Like the biological woman this thread is about, you mean?
Yeah, that didn't work out so well for her, did it as she clearly didn't look '' woman '' enough.

Nope not a chance. I’ve always been on female wards or private ones. I would not stay if I was put on a unisex bay . Not a chance on earth. We as women are entitled to privacy.

Men by definition can never look ‘woman enough’ because they’re men

A biological woman will always look woman enough because that’s what they are

But you don't give a shiny shit about women being at risk of harm and sexual assault because men have been allowed to access their sex segregated spaces
Yes I do '' give a shit. ''
Nobody should feel unsafe and of course I don't want anyone to be abused.
Nobody WAS unsafe though, what doesn't sit right is the whole demonising of a whole group of people just because you (general you) deem them a threat.

cor, it really is astonishing that anyone ever manages to have a baby innit? dh and i drew lots for which one would get pregnant and just kept our fingers crossed that we'd correctly identified each other's sex (and our own!)
Well, that's a twisting of what I said or blatantly missing the point - how has that got anything to do with what you quoted?!
It's not about biologically female bodies giving birth, yes we all know that's what happens.
You do realise that that's not what the thread or indeed what we're talking about right?!
It's the when people are going on a woman's looks and deciding whether she looks woman enough whatever the fuck that means.

It's amazing though that you have all these protective feelz towards a woman being misgendered.

But you don't give a shiny shit about women being at risk of harm and sexual assault because men have been allowed to access their sex segregated spaces.

Why is that Eels? Are you capable of explaining your thought process here?

I doubt many women who give a shit about safeguarding would be that concerned if it meant keeping males out of women's spaces.

Because what's worse. Being mistaken for a man Or being sexually assaulted by a man.

Choose one...

And no I'm not her. But I certainly have been her.

No amount of surgery & hormones can alter the basic different skeletal structure of a man and a woman

So what? No harm done
You're her, are you?
How else would you know there was no harm done to her, how she felt or what went on as she was subjected to all this '' you're a man get him off my ward type crap?!

And if medical staff had decided this woman was trans and placed her on the men's ward and she was abused that's just fine then is it?

So you think placing transmen in male environments endangers them?

Well, this woman probably thought she '' could always tell '' too and we can see what a banging job she did of that!

So what? No harm done. I doubt she would have mistaken a man for a woman. And it's that way round that actually matters.

Now I have people on here and other media telling me that male people can and will use women's spaces as they want and will ignore notices on doors, I feel rather less trusting!

What, you reckon human beings throughout history haven't been able to tell who are the men and who are the women? 🤣
Well, this woman probably thought she '' could always tell '' too and we can see what a banging job she did of that!

If a male is in a female space they clearly give no shits about the feelings of the women and that, imo, is abuse. Happy to force women into mixed sex spaces against their will

Aye, you keep telling yourself that.

What, you reckon human beings throughout history haven't been able to tell who are the men and who are the women? 🤣

A klaxon must have gone off
Heaven forbid there's TWO dissenting voices, must mean a klaxon or tag team or whatever!
Your tin foil hat's slipping.

Sex is recorded/acknowledged at birth. Sex is assigned at conception.

What is the current idea, sex is constant and you change gender or sex can be changed, but gender can't? If gender is now fixed why are people called transgender as that says you're changing gender?

are we doing 'it's really hard to tell what sex someone is'?

it isn't you know, it's dead easy to tell almost all the time

I would be very suspicious about this whole incident, could well be something posted by a TRA and that none of this actually happened.

And if medical staff had decided this woman was trans and placed her on the men's ward and she was abused that's just fine then is it?

Oh your faux concern is touching.
Shame you don't extend that to women being forced to share sex segregated spaces with men.
But in answer to your concern, if birth certificates were accurate rather than altered, there would be no need to place anyone in the space of the opposite sex.
Would there.