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Male midwife facing 29 charges of misconduct,

386 replies

TheLoneRager · 25/01/2022 21:46

NMC hearing started today, expected to last four days, of a senior male midwife accused of, among other things, having taken pictures of two women having caesarian sections without their permission and also filmed himself performing a sex act in a hospital toilet.
He faces 29 misconduct charges.

Will be watching this case this week.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10439033/Bullying-male-midwife-alleged-taken-pictures-two-women-having-Caesarean-sections.html

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AuntyBumBum · 26/01/2022 00:24

@NeverDropYourMooncup

So far, that's a 6% rate of men who should never have been let within a hundred miles of a pregnant woman.

What's the rate for the general population?

Tragically probably no better.
andweallsingalong · 26/01/2022 00:19

How the fuck did he not get suspended (with full pay and no initial judgment) after the first allegation!

NeverDropYourMooncup · 25/01/2022 23:54

So far, that's a 6% rate of men who should never have been let within a hundred miles of a pregnant woman.

What's the rate for the general population?

draramallama · 25/01/2022 23:42

The difficulty is that for some abusers you can see through their persona if you're familiar with the warning signs - but even if you have that skillset in plenty of cases you still won't know that the friendly normal-seeming man was perpetrating horrific acts unless or until he's caught.

I knew someone who was convicted of terrible offences. I hadn't picked up on anything "off" at all about him, and I can be pretty good at clocking abusers before other people wise up.

You can never really know anybody. It's naive to trust someone in a position of power solely because they're in a position of power. Abusers seek out positions of power, after all.

brunonononono · 25/01/2022 23:41

Grim. I don’t particularly see the point in male midwives either. Obviously not all are bad but it’s one speciality that should just left to women. I’m glad obs and gynae is becoming female dominated as well, the fact that a few decades ago nearly all gynae drs were men is so grim and weird.

5zeds · 25/01/2022 23:37

I think giving birth is a female experience and always has been.

GinIronic · 25/01/2022 23:28

I would never trust a man that chooses a profession where they are working with vulnerable women and young children.

AuntyBumBum · 25/01/2022 23:27

@Viviennemary

I don't think male midwives should be allowed.
This.

The odds are not good are they? And you do have to wonder ...

Viviennemary · 25/01/2022 23:25

I don't think male midwives should be allowed.

CeilingWax · 25/01/2022 23:22

I worked with a male midwife on postnatal ward, everyone seemed to love him but I found out one night in the early hours he was quite a bully and extremely sharp tongued, I was a first yr student

And isn’t this part of the pattern too. Being a charming hero when there is a crowd to perform to, but being a callous bully when there’s only a lone woman to challenge him.

Fucking perverts

EishetChayil · 25/01/2022 23:22

This is why I don't let men anywhere near me. No male midwives, dentists, GPs, nurses. None.

5zeds · 25/01/2022 23:21

I had a male midwife who was horrid (mid 2000s). My first instinct when I read this was to see if it was him. Shock. I

WorkingClassWoman · 25/01/2022 23:15

StillWeRise

I worked with 3 male midwives
2- very woman centred and respectful
1 - not woman centred and rather egotistical, but not abusive

As far as you know. The two struck off for viewing child sex abuse images may have seemed women centred and respectful or may have seemed not abusive up until they were caught

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/01/2022 23:11

I get the distinct impression this is connected to the phenomenon whereby men are lauded as heroes and thrown parades for performing basic acts of parenting that nobody blinks at when it's a woman doing it

I see people doing the same with male midwives, where reality does not support the adoration and parades

Completely agree with this.

My experience of male gynae staff.

A painful internal examination with no chaperone. So glad I'm.not his wife ill say that much.

One who showed up after I'd had the baby after they all fucked off leaving me alone . Xp had to go get someone to catch the baby befire he did.

A far cry from the " I had a male midwife he was wonderful he did my ironing , took.my dog for a walk and everything " u get on any AIBu thread on male midwives

StillWeRise · 25/01/2022 23:07

I worked with 3 male midwives
2- very woman centred and respectful
1 - not woman centred and rather egotistical, but not abusive

draramallama · 25/01/2022 23:02

I worked with a male midwife on postnatal ward, everyone seemed to love him but

I get the distinct impression this is connected to the phenomenon whereby men are lauded as heroes and thrown parades for performing basic acts of parenting that nobody blinks at when it's a woman doing it.

I see people doing the same with male midwives, where reality does not support the adoration and parades.

StrawberryLollipops · 25/01/2022 23:02

The paramedic was not going for the job - he just happened to be there.
I sometimes think a random man has more chance of being a decent bloke than someone who has gone for something offbeat. The odds just seem better.

FannyCann · 25/01/2022 23:02

I feel it's a bit different in the situation of a paramedic. They are just trained to manage a delivery in an emergency, which most often will simply involve caching the baby and keeping it warm and looking after the mother, eg if she bleeds, while getting to hospital asap. Very different to being a midwife and looking after women throughout pregnancy, childbirth and the postnatal period.

Hoardasurass · 25/01/2022 22:53

Now I come at this with a slightly different perspective as my ds was delivered by a male paramedic who was really calm, kind and professional for the ridiculously quick delivery. To be Frank I was just glad that my poor neighbour didn't have to catch him, however I really don't think that I would of been comfortable with a male midwife at all I just don't think that any man should be allowed to be midwifes and have always been suspicious of any man who wants to be 1 and guys like this just reinforce that

FrancescaContini · 25/01/2022 22:17

Totally agree with PPs - I would have hated to have a male midwife. If my DDs ever give birth, I will be telling them to refuse a male midwife now.

WorkingClassWoman · 25/01/2022 22:16

Another one Jack Newey-Bradley struck off for child abuse images July last year
nursingnotes.co.uk/news/nurse-midwife-stuck-off-for-making-and-distributing-indecent-images-of-children/#.YfB2CC-nyfA

FrancescaContini · 25/01/2022 22:16

[quote WorkingClassWoman]Oh look here’s a different male midwife who was also struck off www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3541622/Male-midwife-told-female-patients-oral-sex.html[/quote]
I don’t usually click on DM links but I did on this one.

What a fucking arsehole. He’d also “failed to keep newborn babies warm” Sad

Alayalaya · 25/01/2022 22:13

Abusers will go to extraordinary lengths to get themselves into a position where they can access victims and commit abuse. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more incidents with this person that they don’t know about.

Whatwouldscullydo · 25/01/2022 22:12

I'm with you making

To the point I'd rather have had the rude women o did on 1 or 2 occasions than a man no matter how nice he was. Because whether it's intentional or not I feel male gynae staff come with an added requirement ( purely self inflicted but there non the less) of having to make them.feel ok about touching you. They don't ask for it but it's in built isn't it. Don't piss off the men. It's survival.

Its just a job you don't need at that time when you are tired vulnerable and in pain.

Those poor women in these stories Sad

TheLieInTheBitchNTheFloordrobe · 25/01/2022 22:11

You need to do a three year degree in midwifery.