Male midwife facing 29 charges of misconduct,

I had a male midwife and it did not bother me at all, I did not feel uncomfortable. However, as I said above, I am disgusted that anyone who has accessed or uploaded exploitative images escapes jail, just because their girlfriend wrote a glowing letter of support.

There was a thread on here not so long ago where a poster was uncomfortable with a male midwife. There was a bit of a divide between those who agreed they'd be uncomfortable and those who thought she was sexist and should be burned at the stake (slight exaggeration but it wasn't a nice discussion).

My current dentist made a patronising comment about when he was doing work on my teeth about it being like 'doing a blow dry'. I thought would you say that to a woman but of course didn't speak up.

Some men do have ulterior motives. Fact. It's not about you and your lovely husband is it ffs. Not all men are sex offenders. But the majority of sex offenders are men. Hth.

And remove men from the situation and a women's problem is very easily solved at a stroke. Why should women need to dance around this point to protect men?

Thank you Arabella. I’ve had therapy but my main “therapy” is coming in here and realising I’m not alone. There are so many things that I’m not alone in. I felt I was being unreasonable about. I’m not unreasonable!

I’m so sorry “Blobby”.

I openly stated in my birth plan that I did not want any males attending the birth of DS, other then DH. I had an all female team of nurses, midwife, ob gyn and anesthesiologist supporting me and it was great, I felt comfortable and safe. I don’t care if that makes me a bigot for some here or what the male HCP’s at the hospital thought of it. Not my job to spare their feelings.

It’s not women’s job in general to suck it up and be kind during what is probably for most the most vulnerable time in their life. Men shouldn’t be midwives and I always ask for female drs for gynea check ups. It’s not about predatory men per se, it’s about men making me feel more exposed and vulnerable and that’s reason enough to not want them there.

I don't think there should be male midwives. This is all about the men, not the women they are supposed to be supporting.

I know through school but she's moved abroad, a midwife - wonder what experiences she had with male midwife colleagues?

The midwife who escaped jail because of the "glowing" report written by his girlfriend

How can a glowing report ever be written about someone who has accessed and uploaded those images? It is impossible. Surely any sensible person would realise that the woman was being manipulated by someone who accessed and uploaded sickening images who will probably do it again or was herself involved.

AAAAAARRRRRGGGGHHHH

You've got no idea what he was up to, could've been harmless, could've not been!

They are never not at it.

Wow! Despicable predators. Perhaps there are great male midwives but I would not have liked a male midwife either. The care women receive from them is far more intimate than that from gynaecologists. And I speak as someone, who had a male gynaecologist for ivf treatment, who also performed intimate biopsies and surgery on me and another, who performed major abdominal surgery on me.

This is exactly the reason why I don't think there should be male midwives practising.

I suppose there'll be a lot of woke posters who say oh it's only 2 out of 50 who've done things wrong but that's 2 too many in my opinion.

No one thinks all men in healthcare are sex pests or is claiming that male people shouldn't treat women. What a load of nonsense.
It's a hell of a jump to take what we are saying about midwives whose entire role deals with women at a time when they are most vulnerable and may feel exposed, and then complain that we're applying it to all men in the medical profession.
I had a difficult birth and it felt like I had midwives in my room every five minutes putting their fingers inside me to check what was going on. At best, that's awkward and uncomfortable. At worst, it's deeply upsetting and it makes a huge difference to most women whether that person is male or female.
Saying women want female people when they are at their most vulnerable is not saying that all men are predators. Not even close.
Would you say the same thing to women wanting a female doctor to examine her after a rape? Or a female practicioner to do her smear?
There are specific medical roles where women are vulnerable or simply want privacy from men. Pregnancy and childbirth are one of those. If you're #notallmenning women about this, then I do wonder WTF you're doing on a feminist board.

While bigotry is often born out of fear, that doesn't make it excusable.

Stop scolding women for being able to recognise the real risk that men can pose as a class. Risk assessment and safeguarding isn't bigotry fgs. Neither is women individually deciding that male HCPs for certain situations is not what they would willingly choose.

I had a male midwife when my DC was born. He was lovely

Mine sat at the end of the room, at the bottom end of the bed, with his smart phone pointed between my legs, passing time away on his phone. I didn't even have a smart phone then and didn't know the full capabilities of them. But I do know I felt deeply uncomfortable about the positioning of the phone that didn't feel right. Yours might of been lovely. I didn't come away feeling mine was lovely. 14 years later it still makes me feel sick. There was no option to change. There wasn't enough midwives on that night so I was stuck with him.

Yet again we have posters who are comings onto a thread regarding abuse by men and going " but what about my husband"

These women do not exist for ukir husbands to gain their " I'm one of the good guys" badges OK.

A labouring and post woman deserves better than to have to make the men in your lives feel better about themselves.

If most women were honest, they would not want a male midwife. I feel for any women who has accepted a male midwife in fear of looked bigoted.
It isn't about not wanting to accept medical help from a male, I am happy to have doctors or nurses of either sex. But for an experience that is wholly based on being a woman I would want to be supported by other women.

I had a male midwife when my DC was born. He was lovely. That some individuals in particular jobs are dangerous and abusive does not mean that anyone who works in such a job is likely to be so, just because of their sex/gender/sexuality/religion/ethnicity or any other, you know, protected characteristic.

While bigotry is often born out of fear, that doesn't make it excusable.

Where was that suggested?
You misunderstood.

I'm sorry that you are so broken that you think all men in healthcare might be sex pests or perverts. I really hope you manage to move past it. My husband and colleagues are good, kind people who do an excellent job of caring for the men and women in their care. Especially over the last two years. Take care.

Mrblobby that is awful.

What?? Now you are suggesting they are pedophiles? Get a grip ffs.