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Recommended reading - what books would be confiscated from your house?

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/01/2022 19:32

Am slack jawed reading about the police removing a book from a woman's home which she believes was to "check" her thinking.

It gave me pause to look at my own bolshy bookshelf with scribbles of sedition.

What books have you read that some might consider "problematic" but which you found particularly helpful, interesting or challenging and which maybe led you to these boards?

Jenni's book is by Heather Brunskell Evans, I think it might be this one:
www.filia.org.uk/latest-news/2020/11/27/book-review-transgender-body-politics-by-heather-brunskell-evans

I'd recommend Kathleen Stock, of course
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/material-girls-by-kathleen-stock-review-bkqxckqqr

Helen Joyce, this is the one that every MP was sent.
www.standard.co.uk/culture/books/trans-when-ideology-meets-reality-helen-joyce-review-b944183.html

Milli Hill - not about trans but about obstetric violence
(presumably this was reviewed before Milli said she thought that sex is a thing)
www.aims.org.uk/journal/item/give-birth-like-a-feminist-review

Maya Dusenbery's "Doing Harm" is a few years old and there are other versions by other authors examining medical misogyny, but, this is my favourite of them
therumpus.net/2018/04/doing-harm-by-maya-dusenbery/

Inferior by Angela Saini is similar but looks at the sciences in general
www.chemistryworld.com/review/inferior-how-science-got-women-wrong-and-the-new-research-thats-rewriting-the-story-/3008048.article

Who cooked Adam Smith's dinner by Katrine Marcal is a feminist critique of economics wbg.org.uk/blog/who-cooked-adam-smiths-dinner-a-review/

In Control by Jane Monckton Smith is about predictors for male violence which end in the murder of women www.college.police.uk/article/dangerous-relationships-and-how-they-end-book-review

The Mental Load by Emma (no surname) is a cartoon book about who does what in a home and why www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/26/gender-wars-household-chores-comic

The trouble with women by Jackie Fleming is hilarious and beautifully illustrated. www.theguardian.com/books/2016/mar/16/the-trouble-with-women-jacky-fleming-feminist-cartoons

There are others. If the police wish to remove my books I will expect a receipt and for them to be returned to me. Although, if they were a bit dog eared by the time I got them back because they'd been quietly shared round the stations, well, that would please me enormously.

For balance, I have read Juno Dawson, Shon Faye and have attempted Alok Vaid-Menon's three times now...honestly, I know you don't get as much time to read as you'd like, so I recommend saving those treasures until after you have read and reflected all of the books on your "oh, that looks interesting" list.

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CorvusPurpureus · 25/01/2022 20:17

They'd probably round us both up on the basis of dd1's igcse Art sketchbook.

She did rather a good portrait of me surrounded by swirly suffragette colours & shouty quotes. Some of them decidedly GC.

Bless her, I'd prefer her not to see the inside of a police van for painting a picture.

We must surely be into Extinction Burst phase now? The whole thing is just too ridiculous & soon we can all wake up?

Saucery · 25/01/2022 20:11

The Silence Of The Lambs, Robert Harris.
The Wasp Factory, Iain Banks.
Monstrous Regiment, Terry Pratchett.
I do have some Poppy Z Brite too, so maybe that would show balance.

BrideofAberdeen · 25/01/2022 20:06

Luckily I have lent out my Irreversible Damage and Trans to two different friends! Will keep passing them round

NancyDrawed · 25/01/2022 20:02

@vivariumvivariumsvivaria

From Wiki, *@NancyDrawed*

"sundoku
Tsundoku (Japanese: 積ん読) is acquiring reading materials but letting them pile up in one's home without reading them. It is also used to refer to books ready for reading later when they are on a bookshelf. The term originated in the Meiji era (1868–1912) as Japanese slang."

Crikey.

I need to get strict with myself!

Spitspotsput · 25/01/2022 19:58

Maybe 1984 at a stretch. Depends what mood they’re in, no?

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/01/2022 19:57

@Deliriumoftheendless, Atwood. What a fucking disappointment that has been.

Still, I won't hear a word said against THMT.

I do have "Femlandia" by Christina Dalcher which looks like a decent feminist dystopian tale, but I haven't started it yet on account of the rage.

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 25/01/2022 19:55

From Wiki, @NancyDrawed

"sundoku
Tsundoku (Japanese: 積ん読) is acquiring reading materials but letting them pile up in one's home without reading them. It is also used to refer to books ready for reading later when they are on a bookshelf. The term originated in the Meiji era (1868–1912) as Japanese slang."

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NancyDrawed · 25/01/2022 19:53

I have bought, but have yet to read:

Trans - Helen Joyce
Irreversible Damage - Abilgail Shrier
Inventing Transgender Children - Michele Moore and Heather Brunskell Evans
Invisible Women - Caroline Craido Perez
Why Women Are Blamed for Everything - Dr Jessica Taylor

I need a holiday somewhere secluded where I can settle down undisturbed and binge read.

And I have on my shelf but I have read - all of the Strike books.

Whatsnewpussyhat · 25/01/2022 19:52

Does this count? Grin

Recommended reading - what books would be confiscated from your house?
CompleteGinasaur · 25/01/2022 19:50

Bugger, redundant 'are'.. Blame the Mother's Ruin. (Perfect brand name , if anyone ever gets around to producing this MN [Gin] I keep seeing around here..)

CompleteGinasaur · 25/01/2022 19:45

Most of mine are so old they are probably aren't mentioned on the Fahrenheit 451, Danger,Will Robinson shitlist, but I'd begin with Man Made Language and The Dialectic of Sex - the titles would give them away, you see...

Deliriumoftheendless · 25/01/2022 19:41

Well I’ve got 3 Germaine Greer books on the bookshelf over there, but I’ve got a Margaret Atwood on the coffee table so I might just get a stern telling off.

WarriorN · 25/01/2022 19:36

The gendered brain by Gina Rippon

she did a great savage mind's interview in the summer btw Wink